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Post by runnshootcoach on Aug 24, 2011 18:32:10 GMT -6
Amen to all of you saying this sounds like a good coach! Be intense and passionate in practice and just imagine how kids will perform on game night!
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flingt
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Post by flingt on Aug 25, 2011 10:30:33 GMT -6
Devil's advocate here. My first job was coaching at DIII school in 1990. I asked my head coach, "tell me something, other than x's and o's, that I will always use as a coach". His reply, "be yourself, if you're a yeller, yell, if not the players will see right through it". I'm not a yeller, but do raise my voice at times and when I do the players know I mean business. I'd let the guy be himself. Whatever that is.
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Post by indyball on Aug 30, 2011 13:29:48 GMT -6
Enthusiasm is one thing, but when I read the first post, it reminded me of the harda** coaches that yell profanities, stomp all over the field and get in kid's faces all day long without having rhyme or reason. Many times these types of coaches are hiding behind a facade that they hope masks the fact they have trouble teaching the game or, at worst, don't know that game all that well. Like it or not, many young athletes of today simply don't respond to the barking, cuss machine who spews negativity all day long. Some kids come to practice simply so they don't have to be treated that way at home.
However, don't get me wrong, the enthuastically loud but positive coaches many have described on here are necessary, but you either are one or you aren't. I have known many of these "bulldog" type of coaches. As a player, the type never really connected with me and, heck, as a coach many are sometimes annoying to me...BUT, there is no arguing the simple fact that what they do almost always has a positive impact on a team as a whole.
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Post by coachorr on Aug 30, 2011 13:52:46 GMT -6
Did I just read the original post correctly. That to me is like asking "How do you get your running back to slow down?"
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Post by coachcb on Aug 30, 2011 15:38:08 GMT -6
Enthusiasm doesn't mean much unless there is teaching behind it. I'm a loud coach but I do my best to toss out specific coaching points as other people have pointed out.
I didn't used to be that way; I would hoop and holler all practice long without actually teaching anything. I wore down the guys around me in a hurry. I was ready to hire a fellow on as an assistant this year until I watched him coach a basketball game. The guy is very enthusiastic and loud but there isn't any substance behind his coaching. I respect him for his love of coaching but I was worried that the kids would just start tuning him out when they heard the same thing, again and again just at 80 decibels.
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Post by coachorr on Aug 30, 2011 15:43:08 GMT -6
Didn't he just say that the coach uses teaching points while he is hootin and hollerin?
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Post by dubber on Aug 30, 2011 20:54:46 GMT -6
Matter of fact I'm having an issue with one of my coaches being too laid back. Guess what...his position is the slowest, laziest, most apathetic, laid back, bunch of F ups out there. They have no sense of urgency, no pace... I have stepped in several times, I've spoken to the coach several times but it's about to be a "come to Jesus" meeting. I've tried to be patient but that has run it's course. and he's our oline coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get the F out of here, that's usually the most intense guy on any staff and it's pi$$ing me off. It's been my experience that the kids assume the personality and mentality of their position coach. Completely agree. You want fighters on the OL........... Very few kids come pre-programmed to battle adversity, and to get them to climb the mountain, you need to have them run hills (metaphorically). Put it another way, our OL first learns to overcome me. THAT F'ING COACH......in your face, demanding correct steps, proper leverage and FINISH, FINISH, FINISH.........God!!!! We do a conditioning drill (that also reinforces our technique) called "Tunnel"......basically we partner up on a line and work a pass pro progression that ends with one guy pushing and pulling on another who is trying to keep perfect pass pro posture and move his feet. For anyone who has ever done wrestling, it is THAT exhausting. Our senior OT (who never comes off the field and was a conference qualifier in the 400 meter) threw up today. We make them fight through that......in the heat, through the pain in their legs, and the gasps in their lungs............the first thing they learn is to battle through the pain of Tunnel. The next phase we just got to last week (at least my varsity guys)--------now we are not just trying to get through it, but to kick that drill's as s.......to kick my as s.....they are getting to the point where they say, "Throw whatever you want at me you c@cksucker.....I am a rock, and I will overcome it."You can't get to that point coaching like Norm Chow (that is why he coaches quarterbacks, which is totally different)...........you need your OL to pass through the fire, which either tempers the material or burns it up. This coach has the fire to temper your OL.......don't you dare try to put it out.
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Post by coachorr on Aug 30, 2011 21:00:17 GMT -6
We don't practice in the heat if we don't have to, but I think Dubber is on to something here. Great post.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 31, 2011 7:48:14 GMT -6
Matter of fact I'm having an issue with one of my coaches being too laid back. Guess what...his position is the slowest, laziest, most apathetic, laid back, bunch of F ups out there. They have no sense of urgency, no pace... I have stepped in several times, I've spoken to the coach several times but it's about to be a "come to Jesus" meeting. I've tried to be patient but that has run it's course. and he's our oline coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get the F out of here, that's usually the most intense guy on any staff and it's pi$$ing me off. It's been my experience that the kids assume the personality and mentality of their position coach. Yup, there's a good reason I coach the OL. Those cats need to be an angry core of kids. The rest of my staff is competent enough to coach them but they're a little laid back. IMO, you have to be a bit of a looney tune to coach the OL; hopping around like the Tasmanian Devil, spittin and growlin.
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Post by John Knight on Aug 31, 2011 12:20:27 GMT -6
I resemble that remark!
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Post by dhooper on Sept 1, 2011 7:25:38 GMT -6
I have always told my stafff that you need to coach with Enthusiasm if you want your players to play that way.
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