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Post by glazierclinics on Jun 23, 2011 10:53:54 GMT -6
simple question: what's one thing you'd change about the glazier clinics?
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Post by hamerhead on Jun 23, 2011 11:04:49 GMT -6
The crowd!
Yes, it was nice to see so many good coaches, and certainly you don't want to discourage the number of coaches attending. But perhaps choosing locations that are a bit more open or conducive to the size would be a benefit.
Truely, that was my only complaint. It felt like a herd of cattle on the way to the next session at times, particularly when the vendor booths were set up in crowded hallways.
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Post by lochness on Jun 23, 2011 11:05:01 GMT -6
Love the Glazier Clinics, so this is more "constructive criticism" than complaints!
1. More variation in topics. It seems like every session is either "Making Friends and Influencing People With the 3-3-5" or "Spread Offense for Fun and Profit."
2. More focus in topics. Instead of the "Amazing University Offense" for 3 hours, I'd rather see more clinics with "The Outside Zone Play" or "Coaching the Smash Route and Its Compliments" for 3 hours. I think it's hard to get anything but a nugget out of those more broadly-sweeping topics...because "the devil is in the details" when it comes to football, and I'd be willing to sit through 3 hours on just one play or concept if it was something we run.
3. More stuff on practice organization and / or program improvement to mix in with the typical X's and O's stuff.
I hope this helps! Keep up the great work!
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Post by hamerhead on Jun 23, 2011 11:07:32 GMT -6
Love the Glazier Clinics, so this is more "constructive criticism" than complaints! 1. More variation in topics. It seems like every session is either "Making Friends and Influencing People With the 3-3-5" or "Spread Offense for Fun and Profit." 2. More focus in topics. Instead of the "Amazing University Offense" for 3 hours, I'd rather see more clinics with "The Outside Zone Play" or "Coaching the Smash Route and Its Compliments" for 3 hours. I think it's hard to get anything but a nugget out of those more broadly-sweeping topics...because "the devil is in the details" when it comes to football, and I'd be willing to sit through 3 hours on just one play or concept if it was something we run. 3. More stuff on practice organization and / or program improvement to mix in with the typical X's and O's stuff. I hope this helps! Keep up the great work! Agreed. Anything more regarding drills/techniques would be appreciative. X's and O's is just the tip of the iceberg, but it's the tip that is most often focused on in clinics. |
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Post by mariner42 on Jun 23, 2011 11:08:57 GMT -6
I understand that you want to balance topics/presenters between what's popular and in vogue vs offering variety, but there are times where I feel as though if I'm not a spread something something coach or a 3-3-5 coach, I should just go boil my head. I don't really have a good solution for this, so I do feel bad bringing it up, but that was my largest gripe last year. Here's a cat that is (hopefully) going to mirror my thoughts next year during clinic season:  Edit: Love the Glazier Clinics, so this is more "constructive criticism" than complaints! 1. More variation in topics. It seems like every session is either "Making Friends and Influencing People With the 3-3-5" or "Spread Offense for Fun and Profit." 2. More focus in topics. Instead of the "Amazing University Offense" for 3 hours, I'd rather see more clinics with "The Outside Zone Play" or "Coaching the Smash Route and Its Compliments" for 3 hours. I think it's hard to get anything but a nugget out of those more broadly-sweeping topics...because "the devil is in the details" when it comes to football, and I'd be willing to sit through 3 hours on just one play or concept if it was something we run. 3. More stuff on practice organization and / or program improvement to mix in with the typical X's and O's stuff. I hope this helps! Keep up the great work! As usual, the Loch-monster voices my opinion for me, but better. |
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Post by blb on Jun 23, 2011 11:14:34 GMT -6
1. More variation in topics. It seems like every session is either "Making Friends and Influencing People With the 3-3-5" or "Spread Offense for Fun and Profit." Only one team on our schedule runs Spread as their base Offense. None use 3-3-5 Defense. |
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Post by gapshoot76 on Jun 23, 2011 11:31:33 GMT -6
The one thing that gets under my skin is when there are 2 speakers talking on a very similar topic at the same time. Especially if I want to hear both of them talk! Also to improve attendance to evening sessions they should tap a keg, sell cups for 5 bucks. That may keep the coaches around a little longer!  |
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Post by ccoughlin on Jun 23, 2011 11:37:20 GMT -6
Hi,
Chris Coughlin here, president of The Glazier Clinics.
It would be helpful if you included the clinic you attended with your comments. That way, we can go back and take a look so we can figure out a solution for that venue.
For example, I need to go back and look at the 'too much" 3-3-5 comments as they pertain to specific clinics.
Last season our clinic topic model placed less emphasis on the 3-3 so there should have been less of that in every clinic. The previous several years, we did much more as it was a "hot" topic.
Our model also reduced the spread topics.
I need to figure out if we did not follow the model in some venues or if the comments were from clinics sattended in previous years.
The bottom line is that we want to get better and your comments will be listened too. Chris
ps- We are working on larger facilties in many markets and will address that in a separate post.
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Post by realdawg on Jun 23, 2011 12:17:50 GMT -6
Less about what to do (offensive and defensive schemes) and more about how to do it.
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Post by Coach.A on Jun 23, 2011 13:15:03 GMT -6
I love the Spread Offense content. Keep it coming!
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Post by 42falcon on Jun 23, 2011 13:49:01 GMT -6
We would love to get one here in Canada.
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Post by mariner42 on Jun 23, 2011 14:08:35 GMT -6
Hi, Chris Coughlin here, president of The Glazier Clinics. It would be helpful if you included the clinic you attended with your comments. That way, we can go back and take a look so we can figure out a solution for that venue. For example, I need to go back and look at the 'too much" 3-3-5 comments as they pertain to specific clinics. Last season our clinic topic model placed less emphasis on the 3-3 so there should have been less of that in every clinic. The previous several years, we did much more as it was a "hot" topic. Our model also reduced the spread topics. I need to figure out if we did not follow the model in some venues or if the comments were from clinics sattended in previous years. The bottom line is that we want to get better and your comments will be listened too. Chris ps- We are working on larger facilties in many markets and will address that in a separate post. I'm just going through the Santa Clara clinic from this year: 2 speakers on specifically 3-3-5 3 speakers on specifically spread/shotgun offenses, several other speakers that touched on shotgun and/or 'spread' components Here in a CA these are both hot trends, so I get it, but there was virtually nil on 3-4 topics because of a speaker cancellation. I know you fellas don't control the speakers' lives/the weather, but that was a bit of a bother for me. I enjoyed listening to Nick Rapone immensely, for what it's worth. He's one of those guys who has both pedigree and accessibility, great speaker who touched on ideas that were scheme independent and valuable. Thanks for taking the time to do this, by the way  |
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on Jun 23, 2011 14:31:59 GMT -6
I was at Santa Clara as well - the 3 hours per guy format is great - keep that. I agree with everyone in regards to variety, but with more detail. Would be great to see a guy explain a concept, show how they install it, show practice clips, and then game clips of the good and bad...
Most often than not the speakers are giving their cookie cutter talk and they themselves get bored with it....
Also, the time between talks was way too long - 25 minutes? should be ten max... We all see the vendors plenty...
If you got 6 rooms going do it this way:
1 hs offense
1 college/nfl offense
1 hs d
1 college/nfl d
1 hs specials
1 college/nfl specials
I appreciate the HS guys more because they do what I do - college shows me cool sh1t I wish I could do - HS dudes show me my reality...
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Post by glazierclinics on Jun 23, 2011 15:06:15 GMT -6
mariner, sorry about the lack of 3-4, that happens. that's why we created glazier clinic online. i just searched 3-4 in the speaker notes section and pulled 20 sets of notes related to the 3-4. Dan Garrett's 3-4 package video is playing on the site 8/2-8/8 and there are 17 archived webinars on the 3-4. our odd front eclinic was april 1-2, some of that should be archived on the site soon. obviously there's nothing like the real thing but hopefully this comes close! let me know if you need your username or password.
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Post by waltkus72 on Jun 23, 2011 15:23:40 GMT -6
This past year you got rid of the Providence location for the Glazier clinics. Even though it is a smaller one it is still nice for people in New England to get another clinic without traveling to NYC or NJ.
And this past year I liked the variety at location, especially at Boston we had a Tim Murphy from CA and a guy from SMU teaching the Run and Shoot. I would love to see more of this because I believe getting people from an obscure area than where the clinic is adds a lot of flavor. But it was also neat to here a successful coach from Everett, and Lowell to talk about his offense because they were so nearby.
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Post by jgordon1 on Jun 23, 2011 16:11:03 GMT -6
It seems to me that even when I was a college coach, kthe speakers always try to speak over our heads...for instanceI was at the Baltimore clinic and listened to ben albert speak....now I have known ben since 1992 when he was a player at UMass but the stuff he was talking about with lbs banjoing and stuff like that, is just not applicable to the hs level
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Post by Coach JR on Jun 23, 2011 16:25:33 GMT -6
I've only been to one, and enjoyed it. Learned a lot. The only thing I would have changed about that one was the guy that introduced Saban, and felt the need to put on his "fan hat" and run down Trooper Taylor for cancelling while introducing Saban.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jun 23, 2011 16:42:10 GMT -6
Just kind of piggy backing off of some of the other coaches but coaches that go in depth are the best. I typically know that if a coach has multiple sessions on multiple inticacies of their offense or defense then they are probably willing to field several questions and are going to definitely go in depth. I know 2 years ago there was a guy at the Cleveland Clinic who had 4 or 5 sessions that went through everything (was a coach at Richmond then took a HS job in Georgia). Dorman and the Cumberlands at Atlanta this year did a great job of that this year as well, of being open and allowing for and addressing real questions.
I am a bigger fan of the shorter sessions (1.5hrs) though with a short break then back into it. 3 Hrs on a topic then right back into it can be rough sometimes regardless of how good the information is. I do like varying the types of speakers and by that I mean varying those that are going to go in depth with those that are going to give an overarching view of what they have, I think there is a time and place for both and sometimes its good to go to an "overarching" topic and let my head decompress.
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Post by coachks on Jun 23, 2011 20:08:54 GMT -6
Just some general thoughts here: Visited Detroit and Grand Rapids this year.
1) A lot of Speakers have been in rotation for several years now. They are good speakers (usually), but I've already heard them speak and have their notes. Ron Vanderlinden is one, great speaker, but I've heard him twice already. Several former coaches (NFL and college) also fit in this bill. As someone who has attended multiple clinics each of the past 4 years, the variety is running out.
2) Too many NFL speakers. With the notable exception of Jim Herman (NYG), I've gained very little from any NFL speakers. What they do has limited application to what we can do. It doesn't mean they don't give a good talk, but I'm not teaching our DE's 3 pass rush moves when they see the pass 10 times a game.
3) More speakers from small schools. Obviously there is a strong college emphasis in the speaker selection, which is natual, but most of the high school speakers are from the big school ranks. Again, what happens at a 1400 student or larger high school is not always applicable to a 500 student school...which isn't always applicable to a 300 student school.
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Post by raiderx on Jun 23, 2011 20:29:00 GMT -6
If you are an offensive guy the C.O.O.L. Clinic DVDs are great...geared toward O-line play but they cover lots of other aspects of offensive play as well. They are not just drill dvds...they break out specific plays/play series/etc...well worth the money for the dvds.
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Post by gapshoot76 on Jun 23, 2011 21:44:31 GMT -6
Just some general thoughts here: Visited Detroit and Grand Rapids this year. 1) A lot of Speakers have been in rotation for several years now. They are good speakers (usually), but I've already heard them speak and have their notes. Ron Vanderlinden is one, great speaker, but I've heard him twice already. Several former coaches (NFL and college) also fit in this bill. As someone who has attended multiple clinics each of the past 4 years, the variety is running out. 2) Too many NFL speakers. With the notable exception of Jim Herman (NYG), I've gained very little from any NFL speakers. What they do has limited application to what we can do. It doesn't mean they don't give a good talk, but I'm not teaching our DE's 3 pass rush moves when they see the pass 10 times a game. 3) More speakers from small schools. Obviously there is a strong college emphasis in the speaker selection, which is natual, but most of the high school speakers are from the big school ranks. Again, what happens at a 1400 student or larger high school is not always applicable to a 500 student school...which isn't always applicable to a 300 student school. Overall I guess I just like talking to and listening to the guys that have no secrets, because they know just like everyone else's stuff that whatever they are doing is begged, borrowed, and stolen from somewhere else, which is the real reason all of us coach's show up at these big clinics, to beg, borrow, and steal from the speakers. Pro guys, big college guys, and sometimes big H.S. guys seem to be very secretive with their information. Can only tell so much, but won't give everything. Also, a lot of times these guys almost act like they have to be there or treat it as a job, rather then being excited to be there. Div. 3 guys, and most high school guys seem to divulge more information. They will stray from the slides a little. Answer questions in more detail, and talk more technique rather then just x's and o's. These guys are also more willing to stay after and talk, or find a time to meet with you later. These guys tend to be more excited and appreciative to be able to talk to the group too. Maybe a generalization, but from my experience seems to be more true than false. |
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Post by Coach JR on Jun 24, 2011 6:54:05 GMT -6
Just some general thoughts here: Visited Detroit and Grand Rapids this year. 1) A lot of Speakers have been in rotation for several years now. They are good speakers (usually), but I've already heard them speak and have their notes. Ron Vanderlinden is one, great speaker, but I've heard him twice already. Several former coaches (NFL and college) also fit in this bill. As someone who has attended multiple clinics each of the past 4 years, the variety is running out. 2) Too many NFL speakers. With the notable exception of Jim Herman (NYG), I've gained very little from any NFL speakers. What they do has limited application to what we can do. It doesn't mean they don't give a good talk, but I'm not teaching our DE's 3 pass rush moves when they see the pass 10 times a game. 3) More speakers from small schools. Obviously there is a strong college emphasis in the speaker selection, which is natual, but most of the high school speakers are from the big school ranks. Again, what happens at a 1400 student or larger high school is not always applicable to a 500 student school...which isn't always applicable to a 300 student school. After listening to Saban's Def. lecture, I was talking with several HS coaches. To a man they all said the same thing..."Brilliant def. mind, great clinic, but I can't use any of it with my kids". To be honset I wondered how he could do it at the college level with only 20 hours a week for practice. Obviously his results say he can. |
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Post by tango on Jun 24, 2011 6:57:48 GMT -6
Wish we still had the Destin clinic or one close. It is easier to just go to college clinic and get the answers directly from them. I would still go if we had one close.
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Post by Coach.A on Jun 24, 2011 7:13:46 GMT -6
We would love to get one here in Canada. I would also like to see Glazier clinics in Canada. Many Canadian coaches travel to the US for Glazier clinics...I'm sure you could attract some reverse commuters from the US along with the Canadian coaches. |
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Post by CoachCP on Jun 24, 2011 7:53:48 GMT -6
More technique/position specific driven stuff. For instance, a lot of the Wisconsin coaches stuff (I think it was DL, OL, and WR) this year at the March Chicago clinic was really solid. Even though it was broken down DL vs Pass, it was still great to pick up 6-7 nuggets instead of just 1-2 like I would get at an X's and O's thing.
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Post by GregH on Jun 24, 2011 8:24:31 GMT -6
I often tell young coaches that clinics in the old days were more fun (There was a lot of free beer and golf tournaments) but not nearly as productive as today's Glazier clinics. The truth is, though, that one of the reasons there was more drinking was because there were fewer choices and we often sat through talks that had little pertinence to what we did. Glazier clinics are great.
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Post by nexthc on Jun 24, 2011 9:12:06 GMT -6
Having tables at the sessions. Or at least have tables in the front of the room. That will make you get there early for the sessions. I hate writing on a clipboard sitting along side other coaches (esp. on the morning session after a night out)-HAHA.
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 24, 2011 12:10:16 GMT -6
Went to the Mega in Chicago and the St. Louis Glazier this past year.
Overall, I did not think the clinics offered as much depth in topics as past years. Usually there's at least 2 topics per session I want to see, this year I felt each were lacking in topics.
Personally, I enjoy a wide variety of topics. Different offenses, defenses, special teams, lifting techniques, leadership talks, etc. One of my favorite talks I've ever heard was at the St. Louis Glazier two years ago with the Marines giving a leadership talk. This year, to me at least, the topics seemed very bunched into groups. In fact, I'm actually having trouble remembering the talks I listened to this past year I was so unimpressed with some of them.
If I had recommendations, I like the table idea. I also like the format of the 3 hour talks. More variety. I like both of the venues that the two I went to are in now.
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Post by rhscoachbh on Jun 24, 2011 15:39:26 GMT -6
1. No more professional coaches. Every time I've heard a professional coach speak at a Glazier Clinic it turned into a bunch of stories about old time players. Great stories, but it does little for me advancing as a coach. Found the best speakers to be small college coaches and high school coaches. Although the USC DB coach this past Clinic in Orange County was very good.
2. As others have said, offer beer in the evening sessions. Sale it for $3 a cup. It will keep more coaches attending the evening sessions.
3. Offer an evening break out session. When I was at the Michigan clinic a couple years ago they would have evening breakout sessions, with beer of course, and they were awesome. A ton of good back and forth conversation going on.
4. Like the idea with the tables also. Might be a good idea to put whiteboards in the rooms as well.
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Post by coachyarb on Jun 25, 2011 0:49:58 GMT -6
My staff and I switched from the Portland Nike Clinic to the Seattle Glazier Clinic this year. We are all thinking we will go back to Nike next season. The main issue we had was really just the facility. It was so cramped. In Portland there is a huge room with Tables where you can all just sit around until the last guy with a marker in his hand and sober enough to use it wins schematic battle. The Glazier clinic there was no where to do that. The exhibitors areas were so cramped that I couldnt look at anything. The information and sessions were good, but the facility was just not adequate.
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