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Post by lcrusaders on Jun 15, 2011 22:33:41 GMT -6
wasup coach's!
as some of you may know, i am a 20 year old varsity d-line and linebacker/offensive line coach that wants to make coaching my profession. just trying to learn the ropes as much as i can.
anyway, summer skull sessions and defensive practices have started for the summer. just wondering-what is the atmosphere like? is it intense like camp without pads? is it more of a fun while we learn deal? just weighing the pro's and con's
also, any head coaches-would you be annoyed with a younger buck like me asking a lot of questions , asking for books and dvd's, etc?
thanks!
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Post by lochness on Jun 16, 2011 7:19:56 GMT -6
Coach,
When we do summer camp sessions, they are less intense than our start of "official" practice. We are patient, we focus on learning and technique, and we try to have a little fun and build trust with the kids. I think it's important because when the heavy practicing starts, it's important for them to respect you, but also to know that you're a human being who cares about their development and not just a football-coaching machine. You can't have it TOO loose, though...because you don't want to set a bad tone or develop poor disciplinary habits, so there's a fine balance.
I'm certain nobody would be annoyed with anyone asking tons of questions. Afterall, that's what this board is for. I'm not so sure that asking for books or DVD's on the public forum is the way to go, though. There's tons of good stuff available on amazon and through Coach's Choice that I'm sure will help get you started. Maybe start by asking for recommendations on videos or books, but I woudn't hammer the board with requests for materials or trades. Some people (guilty as charged) can find that annoying.
Good luck!
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Post by tango on Jun 16, 2011 9:07:16 GMT -6
Just slower paced than normal practice. We also work on change of direction and foot work more since we are not in pads. Skill people work on timing of course.
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Post by bluboy on Jun 16, 2011 16:27:36 GMT -6
When we work with our kids in the summer, the atmosphere is more relaxed than it is during the season. We're more concerned with teaching and not concerned with winning. We don't want to be in a situation where we are going bonkers with kids in the middle of July. We want the kids to learn and be excited about playing football in August (when we start).
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Post by lcrusaders on Jun 17, 2011 0:54:42 GMT -6
when i said asking for books etc, i really meant asking my hc
thanks all
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Post by jackedup on Jun 17, 2011 7:28:01 GMT -6
You seem very eager and that is great! For me, the summer sessions are more laid back teaching. Establish a level of seriousness for yourself and don't break it. Then when the season comes, turn it up a couple of notches. The main thing for you, being a 20 year old, is establishing a boundary from the players.
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Post by hamerhead on Jun 17, 2011 8:39:15 GMT -6
One thing that I've noticed, that's slightly encouraging, is during drills in our summer camp if the attitude/hustle isn't where it needs to be, I can be more patient and just sort of give a look and the seniors instantly take over. "That's not going to work in August guys, pick it up!" and they hustle more. Our upperclassman realize that the coaches are "having more fun" and being a bit more patient during summer camp, and they try to take charge from there. Works as a leadership building tool as well that way.
Now, things regarding respect towards coaches, language, etc? The expectations are the same. But the tempo/execution end of it, yeah we're a bit more lax.
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Post by CoachHam55 on Jun 17, 2011 8:59:21 GMT -6
I'll echo some of the things others have said and give some other thoughts:
1) The pace is a little slower with greater emphasis on the little things (we are a flexbone triple option team.)
2) Slower pace leads to more true "teaching" opprtunities during the summer than during the season.
3) Most importantly, we use this slower pace and the extra teaching moments to build relationships with the kids. While we work hard, we try to put as much fun into the summer as we can in order to connect with our kids, including competitions against the coaches (football related or not), incentives for meeting expectations, and anything else we can think about to help build the relationship that we will have to rely on once the season starts.
AJ
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Post by Coach Vint on Jun 17, 2011 9:21:45 GMT -6
I have a little different take. Summer conditioning is a time to build mental and physical toughness and get them together as a team. We want them to know they have been through a workout. We end the week with popsicles after our last workout. We also do a couple of cookouts. We incorporate competition into our workouts as well. I understand about having a teaching tempo, but we don't want complacency in any form.
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Post by fantom on Jun 17, 2011 9:50:57 GMT -6
We don't have summer practices but we do have a camp. Very low-key. We try to make a point of letting young guys who have potential get reps with the firsts. Complacency doesn't worry me. That's my job.
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Post by tango on Jun 17, 2011 13:17:08 GMT -6
I posted earlier about practice. Now our workouts are brutal and we get after them harder than during school but practice is slower paced and work on the small things that you can't do during the season.
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Post by lcrusaders on Jun 17, 2011 14:26:46 GMT -6
You seem very eager and that is great! For me, the summer sessions are more laid back teaching. Establish a level of seriousness for yourself and don't break it. Then when the season comes, turn it up a couple of notches. The main thing for you, being a 20 year old, is establishing a boundary from the players. i definitely agree. last year, they called me by my first name i realized that is not good. this year, weve been doing up-downs. im "coach" from now on ;D |
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Post by groundchuck on Jun 18, 2011 7:41:34 GMT -6
Tempo is slower.
Intensity is less.
I will tolerate a little "screwing around" but not much.
Kids still know we are not out there to play grabass, and work needs to be done. I expect them to be working to get better.
When we do our full contact camp then we run it like practice.
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Post by op4shadow on Jun 20, 2011 19:00:04 GMT -6
i am part of a new staff in our first season. we came on in february. our workouts are extremely intense, tons of competition and lots of in your face positive encouragement...that is the coaches are very amped and extremely energetic in a positive way. on the field, our main focus obviously in play install, however we stress competition. our boys know that they are competing on every play for a job. our header's saying to us is "as a coach, you'll get what you demand". my views on coaching has been turned upside down, and i'm loving every minute of it, as are the players.
went off topic for a second, sorry!! very intense in terms of lifting and conditioning. lots of technique, footwork, and the little things are hammered. we have fun, but know that business is first. as someone posted before, kids need to trust you, this is the time to build trust. be there as much as possible. we even break up into position groups so that the kids are lifting with their position coach. boundries are needed, but the kids also need to believe that you can be one of the boys. in my opinion, despite what the old school coaches will say, it's ok to establish a kind of older brother relationship with them. again, boundries first so that when you do go off, they know you mean business, but have fun as well.
ask all the questions and ask for as much material as possible. it's their job to coach u up...and if you can't get info from them, what's the point in coaching with them? as we tell players that the team is family, so is the coaching staff. as the young buck, you'll be the brunt of jokes at times, but you should be brought in like a little brother, and all the older brothers need to "show you the ropes". good luck!!
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Post by coachplaa on Jun 21, 2011 0:28:46 GMT -6
We are trying something new this year. My staff went to the University of Oregon, and one of the many things that we came away with was their use of music during the high-rep drill part of practice. They played music throughout practice, but early it was very loud. We went and invested $300 in a 10" PA speaker and iPod, loaded about 100 uptempo music from the 70's to current day, and play it during our summer workouts on the field. I don't have any scientific evidence, but all signs point to money well spent. It has really increased the tempo and mood at practice, especially when its hot.
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Post by shields on Jun 21, 2011 4:07:00 GMT -6
To echo the others, we are operating at a slower pace. That said, we have more INDY periods to work fundys a bit more and everyone is getting a look where once the season starts, there's time for ones and twos...everyone else is scout.
Clinic and read everything you can get your hands on. Your HC will appreciate it. Don't just talk it (annoying), do it.
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Post by clloyd on Jun 21, 2011 23:01:17 GMT -6
I do agree that they must enjoy what they are doing. If they understand that the hard work will make it fun later the works also.
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Post by ajreaper on Jun 22, 2011 12:34:03 GMT -6
Core expectations must be the same but the summer affords more time to teach as there is no need to game plan. If its to lax and loose you'll "lose" them as soon as you want to get "serious" because now the season is here.
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