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Post by scoresomemore on May 13, 2011 19:28:48 GMT -6
Those who have field turf put in, how long did it take to install start to finish?
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Post by Yash on May 13, 2011 22:37:26 GMT -6
When they put it in at my college (redid the entire stadium) the turf was the first thing they did. Took them about 6 weeks I would say from start to finish. Although that also required them to level the entire ground off since the field changed the angle at which it laid.
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Post by mholst40 on May 14, 2011 2:08:15 GMT -6
Probably depends how much you are paying for install. I believe when the New England Patriots installed it, it only took one week!
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Post by davishfc on May 14, 2011 12:41:06 GMT -6
Why score? Are you guys getting some put in at CP? You lucky dog.
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Post by scoresomemore on May 14, 2011 14:21:21 GMT -6
install begins june 6th. we're very excited.
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Post by champ93 on May 14, 2011 15:44:16 GMT -6
It depends on a number of factors, primarily the amount of site work that needs to be done. If there is excavating involved, it could be about 2 months, depending on how much and what needs to done. The actual install is pretty quick. Ours (last fall) was a planned 21 day install that included 7 days of bad weather. But that was just the turf and infill. Excavation, subsurface, drainage, etc took the most time, but we started from scratch.
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Post by cqmiller on May 14, 2011 16:04:40 GMT -6
I hope the 6 week turnaround is what we get... We open camp on Aug 1st and play our 1st game on Aug 19th! Supposed to break ground as soon as school ends June 7th-ish. Gonna have to sort out practices and 7on7 this summer and hope to have the new field ready to go by the time we open camp.
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Post by Coach Huey on May 14, 2011 16:11:56 GMT -6
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Post by coachjd on May 14, 2011 19:30:55 GMT -6
Our school is going to put 350k in redoing the field drainage, sprinkler system, new score board, goals post and re-crowning the field. I think the money would be better spent in field turf. Beggers can't be choosers.
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Post by davishfc on May 14, 2011 20:37:04 GMT -6
install begins june 6th. we're very excited. Well no $hit you're excited! What a recruiting tool for a football program. "Hey boys, this is what we play on every home game on a Friday night." I don't care if it's shared with the soccer team. I don't even know if it is or not. Either way...you lucky dog...your kids are playing on TURF in the fall. CP is going to be in the semi's now. What a turnaround. No doubt, the offense is helping coach Good luck score!
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Post by jtejada5 on May 14, 2011 22:23:03 GMT -6
Wow I dont know who we paid but ours is taking for EVER! They started with ground work in January and It looks the same because apparently they didn't take a big enough sample in the clay the first time and they are telling us the first part of September we will have it done. Now they are putting a track around it as well but 9 months seems ridiculous to me!
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Post by bleefb on May 17, 2011 2:03:32 GMT -6
Twice as long as they tell you it will take.
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Post by k on May 17, 2011 5:01:13 GMT -6
I went on vacation for two weeks last summer. When I left they had shipped the equipment and giant bags in but not touched anything. When I came back they had everything finished on the field. They still haven't finished everything... no field house, no pressbox, no bleachers on the visitors side but everything else is done...
Turning the field from an aging traditional soccer field into a best in class turf field took 2 weeks.
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Post by coachbigelow on May 17, 2011 14:51:42 GMT -6
Ours was put in by a company that used masonry sand (it was their first time building one), yeah you don't want that. We are now re-doing the whole field.
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Post by prossi on May 17, 2011 20:36:53 GMT -6
The process is pretty extensive. First they remove a couple feet of dirt and clay. Then they trench for the finger drains basically a drain every few feet on angles that tie into the main drain. Then they add limestone. Lime stabilization is usually needed but never in the original bid. So that's a change order. Once that done the crushed limestone goes on and completely leveled with heavy rollers. Once it's flat they lay the green carpet. They shave out the numbers and logos. It comes in 5 yard rolls by the width of the field. They lay it out and sew the ends and hot glue them together. After that's done they apply several alternating layer of silica sand and the rubber pellets. And smooth it out with groomers. The process should take 4 to 6 weeks. The major factors are drainage, soil condition and weather. Also who else is in line to get it done. It pretty cool to watch. I have pictures of the process when they did ours. We have field turf by tarkett. Order extra rubber it disappears rapidly. Each kid takes a shoe full away every night.
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Post by hwkfn1 on May 18, 2011 7:19:51 GMT -6
The year they installed ours, it poured down rain on the day before and the day of the first game. Literally about 12 inches of rain fell. The rain ended during the sophomore game and by the time the varsity game started the field was dry. It is a great field.
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Post by Yash on May 18, 2011 8:39:42 GMT -6
I think the best part of field turf is being able to practice where you play. So easy to coordinate practice when you know the grass will always be good and you can practice any signaling or communicaiton from where it will happen in a game.
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Post by CoachFetty on May 18, 2011 17:23:06 GMT -6
We are getting FieldTurf. Installation starts June 4th.
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Post by scoresomemore on May 20, 2011 13:30:33 GMT -6
Race ya......yeah right, I know we'll be behind schedule....
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Post by coachbilderback on May 23, 2011 20:44:31 GMT -6
How much is the field turf running now? I know it depends on many factors, but just curious what the ballpark is now...
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Post by lj on May 25, 2011 20:54:09 GMT -6
Couple of questions I have about FieldTurf or for that matter, any of the new synthetic surface companies that install this. I was looking at FieldTurf's Performance Analysis pamphlet they give out. It said that "Initial Capital Cost" for a grass field was $540,000. I'm assuming that means if you were starting from scratch on a grass field. For FieldTurf, "Initial Capital Cost" is $720,000. It then gives a 10 year projection of what it would cost for maintenance. For grass, they gave the number $52,500. Over a 10 year period, that total is $1,065,000. For FieldTurf, it is $770,000. Both of these include the "Initial Capital Cost". Now maybe I'm wrong, but if you have an existing field, you wouldn't pay that $540,000 which brings that grass number down to $525,000.
After 10 years, say that you have to replace the surface which would be half of what the original cost is because you don't have to dig the hole and remove the dirt. That would be $360,000. The grand total over a 20 year period would be $1.1 million. For grass, without the "Initial Capital Cost" of $540,000, and 20 years of maintenance at $52,500, the grand total would be $1.05 million. Which means you would be paying more to replace a field with FieldTurf. Now, if your building a new stadium, then the "Initial Capital Cost" kicks in for grass, which would change things.
Am I missing something? We would love to have FieldTurf, but are you really saving? Is $52,500 high for yearly maintenance?
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Post by schenk11 on May 31, 2011 8:39:12 GMT -6
Our installation took 6 weeks, field already there, just converted grass to turf, and cost about $600,000.
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Post by ram7gm on Jun 3, 2011 19:39:00 GMT -6
Ours took about 4 weeks. Delays of course, but that's to be expected. They were supposed to start right after school let out last June. Naturally, there were a few weeks of nothing happening. Eventually, they stripped our old grass out of there (which the baseball team actually used some of to re-sod their infield), level, and then lay their base layers (limestone, sand, forgot what else). Once that was all in and they were ready to lay the carpet, it probably took 2 weeks total - and that included multi-colored sideline and endzones, EZ lettering, the numbers, and a midfield helmet logo.
Cant be certain about the exact cost, all I know is that it came from an "anonymous donation." I believe it was in the neighborhood of $850,000 - and that included new uprights.
All in all, money VERY well spent!
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Post by ram7gm on Jun 3, 2011 19:44:48 GMT -6
I forgot the timeline...
I believe they started in mid-to-late June. They were a bit behind schedule but also planned for some rainy days/nights. We had to spend the first week or two of two-a-days on our rock-hard and dry practice field. The new turf was ready just in time for our 2nd scrimmage (I believe it was completed on the friday night before). Obviously ended up practicing every day and hosting 2 scrimmages before beginning a memorable inaugural season on it.
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Post by ram7gm on Jun 3, 2011 19:46:21 GMT -6
We used the Motz (sp?) group.
HIGHLY recommended.
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Post by ram7gm on Jun 3, 2011 19:52:27 GMT -6
My previous school installed field turf in 2006. Forgot what brand, but I believe 'FieldTurf.' TONS of delays. Total headache. Start date got pushed back about 10 times. They had to level and re-level about 5 times. We missed all of two-a-days and the scrimmages. They somehow miraculously finished literally the day of our first game, the home opener. The workers laid the final layer of rubber/infill, collected their equipment, and drove off at about 4:45, not long before specialists went out and the visiting bus arrived!
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Post by ram7gm on Jun 3, 2011 19:52:45 GMT -6
My previous school installed field turf in 2006. Forgot what brand, but I believe 'FieldTurf.' TONS of delays. Total headache. Start date got pushed back about 10 times. They had to level and re-level about 5 times. We missed all of two-a-days and the scrimmages. They somehow miraculously finished literally the day of our first game, the home opener. The workers laid the final layer of rubber/infill, collected their equipment, and drove off at about 4:45, not long before specialists went out and the visiting bus arrived!
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 3, 2011 19:55:47 GMT -6
Couple of questions I have about FieldTurf or for that matter, any of the new synthetic surface companies that install this. I was looking at FieldTurf's Performance Analysis pamphlet they give out. It said that "Initial Capital Cost" for a grass field was $540,000. I'm assuming that means if you were starting from scratch on a grass field. For FieldTurf, "Initial Capital Cost" is $720,000. It then gives a 10 year projection of what it would cost for maintenance. For grass, they gave the number $52,500. Over a 10 year period, that total is $1,065,000. For FieldTurf, it is $770,000. Both of these include the "Initial Capital Cost". Now maybe I'm wrong, but if you have an existing field, you wouldn't pay that $540,000 which brings that grass number down to $525,000. After 10 years, say that you have to replace the surface which would be half of what the original cost is because you don't have to dig the hole and remove the dirt. That would be $360,000. The grand total over a 20 year period would be $1.1 million. For grass, without the "Initial Capital Cost" of $540,000, and 20 years of maintenance at $52,500, the grand total would be $1.05 million. Which means you would be paying more to replace a field with FieldTurf. Now, if your building a new stadium, then the "Initial Capital Cost" kicks in for grass, which would change things. Am I missing something? We would love to have FieldTurf, but are you really saving? Is $52,500 high for yearly maintenance? 1.1- 1.05 = $95,000. Over 20 years, that is $4,750 a year. $4,750 a year for 20 years of not having to worry about cancelling a Frosh/Jv game due to rain. Not having to worry about the band stomping the grass dead (or having battles with band director about field use). Not having to worry about soccer destroying the field over the winter. Not having to worry about PE classes on the field.... So for $4,750 a year, you get guaranteed games, smoother faculty relations, a more harmonious athletic dept. You also get the opportunity to host several events without worry about the grass being beat up (Little league championships/flag football tournaments, 7 on 7 matches etc.) I can't speak to the $50,000 quote for field maintenance, but if it is accurate, I think the $4,750 may be worth it. I think the bigger issue is the funds availability. For those schools that have installed field turf--did your district establish a "sinking fund" for the large capital outlay in 10-12 years?
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Post by huskyskins on Jun 12, 2011 14:24:37 GMT -6
Couple of questions I have about FieldTurf or for that matter, any of the new synthetic surface companies that install this. I was looking at FieldTurf's Performance Analysis pamphlet they give out. It said that "Initial Capital Cost" for a grass field was $540,000. I'm assuming that means if you were starting from scratch on a grass field. For FieldTurf, "Initial Capital Cost" is $720,000. It then gives a 10 year projection of what it would cost for maintenance. For grass, they gave the number $52,500. Over a 10 year period, that total is $1,065,000. For FieldTurf, it is $770,000. Both of these include the "Initial Capital Cost". Now maybe I'm wrong, but if you have an existing field, you wouldn't pay that $540,000 which brings that grass number down to $525,000. After 10 years, say that you have to replace the surface which would be half of what the original cost is because you don't have to dig the hole and remove the dirt. That would be $360,000. The grand total over a 20 year period would be $1.1 million. For grass, without the "Initial Capital Cost" of $540,000, and 20 years of maintenance at $52,500, the grand total would be $1.05 million. Which means you would be paying more to replace a field with FieldTurf. Now, if your building a new stadium, then the "Initial Capital Cost" kicks in for grass, which would change things. Am I missing something? We would love to have FieldTurf, but are you really saving? Is $52,500 high for yearly maintenance? 1.1- 1.05 = $95,000. Over 20 years, that is $4,750 a year. $4,750 a year for 20 years of not having to worry about cancelling a Frosh/Jv game due to rain. Not having to worry about the band stomping the grass dead (or having battles with band director about field use). Not having to worry about soccer destroying the field over the winter. Not having to worry about PE classes on the field.... So for $4,750 a year, you get guaranteed games, smoother faculty relations, a more harmonious athletic dept. You also get the opportunity to host several events without worry about the grass being beat up (Little league championships/flag football tournaments, 7 on 7 matches etc.) I can't speak to the $50,000 quote for field maintenance, but if it is accurate, I think the $4,750 may be worth it. I think the bigger issue is the funds availability. For those schools that have installed field turf--did your district establish a "sinking fund" for the large capital outlay in 10-12 years? If your district is like ours, they will find a thousand ways to rent out the field to youth groups, soccer leagues, etc. to pay for the future replacement. Our field is in use nearly every evening and all-day Saturdays and some Sundays. The district says they are stowing away those user fees for future replacement, and they're making way more than $5,000 per year in user fees.
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Post by ogre5530 on Mar 14, 2012 6:22:20 GMT -6
Our school is going to put 350k in redoing the field drainage, sprinkler system, new score board, goals post and re-crowning the field. I think the money would be better spent in field turf. Beggers can't be choosers. We had a problem similar to this so instead of redoing our grass field the district surprisingly decided to spend a little extra money to install the field turf and we love it! We just got a new scoreboard in the last week too.
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