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Post by wolfden12 on Jun 17, 2007 19:48:20 GMT -6
I recently have been named as our schools new offensive coordinator. I am the only hold over from the previous staff that left for a bigger school. I am nervous but anxious to get things going. I am however in limbo about a few thigs that hopefully some of you coaches can help me out with.
1. How do you organize your schedule in order of getting things introduced and put in?
2. What are important things to do and know when becoming a coordinator?
3. How in your opinion is a good way to be successful?
4. Any other help or advice is greatly appreciated?
Wolfden
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Post by dacoachmo on Jun 17, 2007 20:12:59 GMT -6
I recently have been named as our schools new offensive coordinator. I am the only hold over from the previous staff that left for a bigger school. I am nervous but anxious to get things going. I am however in limbo about a few thigs that hopefully some of you coaches can help me out with. 1. How do you organize your schedule in order of getting things introduced and put in? 2. What are important things to do and know when becoming a coordinator? 3. How in your opinion is a good way to be successful? 4. Any other help or advice is greatly appreciated? Wolfden 1. decide what you are going to run then intro the the keys parts of the system first. the amount that you plan to run a play in the game should dictate how much practice time is used. 2. make sure the staff is on the same page and have the same or similiar beliefs. have a play sheet. 3. be flexible and creative. 4. "Plays are expensive and Formations are inexpensive"
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Post by saintrad on Jun 18, 2007 7:09:33 GMT -6
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Post by spartancoach on Jun 18, 2007 7:17:09 GMT -6
Plan backwards. Make a list of what you would like to have in by the first game in order of priority, and print a calendar which lists all of your practice/meeting time before that first game. Work backwards from the first game to the first day of practice to schedule your installation. Err on the side of less and build in days where you are installing nothing new.
From your install schedule, then make a practice/meeting schedule for every session describing exactly how each individual position, group and the team will learn and rep each of the skills necessary to perform what was installed that day.
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 18, 2007 7:41:50 GMT -6
Plan backwards. Make a list of what you would like to have in by the first game in order of priority, and print a calendar which lists all of your practice/meeting time before that first game. Work backwards from the first game to the first day of practice to schedule your installation. Err on the side of less and build in days where you are installing nothing new. From your install schedule, then make a practice/meeting schedule for every session describing exactly how each individual position, group and the team will learn and rep each of the skills necessary to perform what was installed that day. Great advice for almost anything. Figure out where you want to be, and then figure out how to get there day by day.
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Post by okpowerspread on Jun 18, 2007 8:11:21 GMT -6
All of the above is great planning advice and will help you stay organized throughout your install process. I think you need to decide what your running game staple is going to be. Is it IZ/OZ, is it iso & power, is it the triple option? Make that decision and pick your four best run plays that you will go into each week with and install those first. Those plays will need the most reps. Then decide what other run plays you want and add those a little at a time. Do the same thing with your passing and screen game. I always install the play-action pass right along with the run play.
That being said, if I may offer some other advice to help you get the best possible handle of the offense. Make a new offensive playbook. If you are using an older one, re-write it and make it up to date. Find a format for one that you like, or simple re-do the one you already have. nothing teaches you the in's and out's of your offense like putting it all on paper. I recently re-wrote ours and I learned new stuff about my own offense. Make sure your philosophy is written down and the other coaches understand what you are trying to accomplish on offense. My play book is very detailed and I would never give a full copy to any of our kids, it would simply overwhelm them. I feel a good comprehensive play book is more of a "Coaches' Reference Book." We won't run everything in our book each year because we might not have a moblie QB some years, but more of a drop back pocket passer. Other years, we may have a stud athlete at QB and run a bit more option and sprint out. Its not changing our offense or anything, it's simply adapting to your kids and giving them the best chance to win.
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 18, 2007 9:39:04 GMT -6
All of the above is great planning advice and will help you stay organized throughout your install process. I think you need to decide what your running game staple is going to be. Is it IZ/OZ, is it iso & power, is it the triple option? Make that decision and pick your four best run plays that you will go into each week with and install those first. Those plays will need the most reps. Then decide what other run plays you want and add those a little at a time. Do the same thing with your passing and screen game. I always install the play-action pass right along with the run play. That being said, if I may offer some other advice to help you get the best possible handle of the offense. Make a new offensive playbook. If you are using an older one, re-write it and make it up to date. Find a format for one that you like, or simple re-do the one you already have. nothing teaches you the in's and out's of your offense like putting it all on paper. I recently re-wrote ours and I learned new stuff about my own offense. Make sure your philosophy is written down and the other coaches understand what you are trying to accomplish on offense. My play book is very detailed and I would never give a full copy to any of our kids, it would simply overwhelm them. I feel a good comprehensive play book is more of a "Coaches' Reference Book." We won't run everything in our book each year because we might not have a moblie QB some years, but more of a drop back pocket passer. Other years, we may have a stud athlete at QB and run a bit more option and sprint out. Its not changing our offense or anything, it's simply adapting to your kids and giving them the best chance to win. I think this is good too. If you can't make sense of your own system, it's not a system. And if your playbook is so big that it is too overwhelming to put together, then maybe it is too big. The other thing that is good - and Ted Seay has done this to his Wild Bunch stuff - is after you're done you can go back and take inventory of your offense. How many inside runs, outside runs, 3-step, and 5-step, but then you also ask how many horizontal stretches you have, how many vertical stretches, how many cover 3 beaters, how many cover 2 beaters. How many different run actions you have, blocking schemes. How many powers, traps, zones, etc. You will get some perspective on what you have too much of, not enough enough, etc. This is good self analysis.
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Post by brophy on Jun 18, 2007 10:12:39 GMT -6
dear wolfden, 1) Congratulations on the promotion 2) Can we schedule your team for a game in 2007? 3) If yes, then I would recommend putting in as MANY schemes as possible as fast as you can.
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Post by coachveer on Jun 19, 2007 7:37:29 GMT -6
Good Luck Coach, If you don't understand the OL stuff yet.....you need to..
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Post by wingman on Jun 20, 2007 22:04:57 GMT -6
I agree on the oline. I don't know how you can adjust to changes teh defense gives you every game if you don't understand the schemes. every once in a awhile e play someone who just decides to put in an offense like shotgun option but doesn't understand protection. The qb was running for his life.
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Post by groundchuck on Jun 21, 2007 12:05:52 GMT -6
One thing that I have learned (the hard way) is in practice not to try and outsmart the scout defense. Instead of scripting plays and running a whole bunch of different plays in a block of time break it down into 3-5 minute segments where all you run is your base play and the counter off it (or play action pass). Then progress to the next series. Maybe you need longer than 5 minutes, that was just an example.
What I found was when we went from jumping around to different plays durring team to focussing on running the series over and over was the execution level went up, especially with younger kids.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2007 17:47:23 GMT -6
Thats a heck of an idea, coach. Might start that this fall.
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Post by coach5875 on Jun 26, 2007 17:08:52 GMT -6
its funny, as an OC, I just got a new RB's coach last week....
Him and I are meeting like crazy to get him caught up and ready for our upcoming minicamp...
He is having a hard time learning the system and I am finding out here is the reason why....
Everything in my entire scheme is about keeping things as simple as possible for the OL.....
Really I only have two formations, Pro and Twin and the kids know where they adjust on every formation.....
We run no huddle and the only thing that the lineman hear is what effects them in the playcall...
Our number system is series based and tells the OL what exactly to do....
The thinking is left for the QB mostly and then secondly the skilled kids.....
Covering the gap between his old terminology and mine is proving difficult, but he is getting it.....
I guess the moral of the story is the last guys you want thinking are the guys up front.....
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Post by coachveer on Jun 27, 2007 6:55:26 GMT -6
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Post by ajreaper on Jun 27, 2007 7:47:48 GMT -6
I'd reccomend getting a copy of 101 ways to have an effective offense- or something close to that, it's written by Steve Axman and definately a book OC's should have in their library (coaching critical offensive situations is excellent as well).
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Post by wolfden12 on Jun 27, 2007 16:00:34 GMT -6
thank you ajreaper
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 28, 2007 7:47:47 GMT -6
its funny, as an OC, I just got a new RB's coach last week.... Him and I are meeting like crazy to get him caught up and ready for our upcoming minicamp... He is having a hard time learning the system and I am finding out here is the reason why.... Everything in my entire scheme is about keeping things as simple as possible for the OL..... Really I only have two formations, Pro and Twin and the kids know where they adjust on every formation..... We run no huddle and the only thing that the lineman hear is what effects them in the playcall... Our number system is series based and tells the OL what exactly to do.... The thinking is left for the QB mostly and then secondly the skilled kids..... Covering the gap between his old terminology and mine is proving difficult, but he is getting it..... I guess the moral of the story is the last guys you want thinking are the guys up front..... I agree, but it is interesting how without a doubt the position in the NFL who does the best on the Wonderlic intelligence test are the OL. I guess the moral is just it's important to keep it easy for the OL because it can get complicated very quickly if you don't pay special attention to keeping it simple.
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Post by coach5875 on Jun 30, 2007 10:13:44 GMT -6
its funny, as an OC, I just got a new RB's coach last week.... Him and I are meeting like crazy to get him caught up and ready for our upcoming minicamp... He is having a hard time learning the system and I am finding out here is the reason why.... Everything in my entire scheme is about keeping things as simple as possible for the OL..... Really I only have two formations, Pro and Twin and the kids know where they adjust on every formation..... We run no huddle and the only thing that the lineman hear is what effects them in the playcall... Our number system is series based and tells the OL what exactly to do.... The thinking is left for the QB mostly and then secondly the skilled kids..... Covering the gap between his old terminology and mine is proving difficult, but he is getting it..... I guess the moral of the story is the last guys you want thinking are the guys up front..... I agree, but it is interesting how without a doubt the position in the NFL who does the best on the Wonderlic intelligence test are the OL. I guess the moral is just it's important to keep it easy for the OL because it can get complicated very quickly if you don't pay special attention to keeping it simple. Its because of the mental work that it takes to make 5 work as 1...... Schemes and concepts have to be simple because of the permutations that defenses can come up with.... Those guys have to be able to adjust on the fly and recognize and react......not think..... That is why I build simplicity with them in mind..... It helps that I am a former OL myself....
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