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Post by dacoachmo on Mar 12, 2011 7:36:52 GMT -6
Is there a good forum board for parents?
Looking to help a few coworkers with youth players...
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 12, 2011 13:57:50 GMT -6
Is there a good forum board for parents? Looking to help a few coworkers with youth players... I'm confused. Do you mean you want to help a few co-workers by supplying them with players whom you're a parent of? Or do you mean you want to help (How?) some co-workers who are parents of youth football players? Or something else? |
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Post by coachdoug on Mar 12, 2011 19:30:32 GMT -6
Well, Bob, the obvious answer is that dacoachmo has some coworkers who's kids play youth football and he's looking for a forum to direct them to. I would start by assuming that he means the most obvious thing (i.e. what I just said), and adjust if it turns out he meant something else.
And, no, I do not know of any such forum, although I wouldn't be surprised if one exists. I'm not sure how much value there would be in such a board - just a bunch of clueless parents getting together to complain about stuff they really don't know about ... it doesn't sound very productive to me. Having those parents come to a coach's forum (like this or several others) would probably be a better education for those parents and ultimately do them a lot more good.
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 13, 2011 0:38:06 GMT -6
Well, Bob, the obvious answer is that dacoachmo has some coworkers who's kids play youth football and he's looking for a forum to direct them to. I would start by assuming that he means the most obvious thing (i.e. what I just said), and adjust if it turns out he meant something else. And, no, I do not know of any such forum, although I wouldn't be surprised if one exists. I'm not sure how much value there would be in such a board - just a bunch of clueless parents getting together to complain about stuff they really don't know about ... it doesn't sound very productive to me. Having those parents come to a coach's forum (like this or several others) would probably be a better education for those parents and ultimately do them a lot more good. Yeah, in retrospect, now that I'm more awake (but about to go to sleep), that seems the more likely meaning, just because I can't think of how a forum would help him in the other case! But let's not emphasize the cluelessness of parents in this case. Sure, this is a coaching forum, and the details we're most interested in are things most of the parents wouldn't know much about. But think about what this person's after like a forum for, say, parents of children undergoing medical or surgical treatment for some particular condition those family members share. They don't need to know enough to be medical doctors themselves, but they may have certain concerns regarding what to expect, etc. that wouldn't be likely to come up in a medical forum but that they could share among themselves. In that case, it could be useful to have a forum for football moms & dads, although I don't know where that might be. I would look for some threads in Usenet group misc.kids -- except that Usenet ain't what it used to be for traffic; misc.kids at one time was huge. Now everything's on the Web, and even though you can use Google Groups to access Usenet, Web boards have outstripped the old newsgroups. But that's the basic idea -- look for parenting forums with discussion threads on football, rather than football forums with threads on parenting, because you're not likely to find much use in the latter, as Doug notes. Let's not assume the parents' concerns are necessarily complaints. Maybe they are clueless about football and would like to know more. If the original poster is in an area like here, there's a fair likelihood the co-workers he's referring to are immigrants who didn't grow up with a familiarity with American football, or they could be women who've never had an interest in team sports. It's like one young lady I overheard talking about how she would tell her mother she was playing in a rugby tournament, and her mother would be all like, that's fine dear, and then wonder why her daughter's clothes came home so dirty -- thought maybe rugby was a card game or some such. |
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Post by dacoachmo on Mar 13, 2011 9:40:21 GMT -6
I have co workers (mostly Moms) that are always asking for help. Yes I do as much as I can but would like to direct them to another source/forum that would include coaches and parents.
The Moms don't have a background in sports...
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 13, 2011 10:09:32 GMT -6
dacoachmo---what kind of help?
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Post by dacoachmo on Mar 13, 2011 11:19:22 GMT -6
Voice of reason from coaches and parents that are realistic about youth sports.
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 13, 2011 15:12:15 GMT -6
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Post by dacoachmo on Mar 20, 2011 6:27:22 GMT -6
The co workers don't have any sports experience and only see NFL and today's media. One co worker wanted me to help her upload video highlights of her son on a MVP website...he's 8 years old.
I also guide her where to buy equipment/clothes for her son...see the local sports dealer and try to avoid the big box sports store.
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Post by xenith36 on Sept 8, 2011 9:52:54 GMT -6
I take offense to coachdoug about clueless parents. 1st off without we clueless parents you wouldnt have youth football...we provide the kids, we volunteer, we pay. We are here to get a clue!!
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Post by davecisar on Sept 8, 2011 10:30:48 GMT -6
I take offense to coachdoug about clueless parents. 1st off without we clueless parents you wouldnt have youth football...we provide the kids, we volunteer, we pay. We are here to get a clue!! Without quality coaches, many of whoam do not have a selfish interest other than helping to develop your son by volunteering 100s of hours of their discretionary free time, there would be no youth football. A parents time and money investment pales in comparison to what a typical youth football coach puts in. Without guys like Doug, what youth football that would exist would be of such a low level of quality, few would bother to sign up to play the following season. The critical success factor to a healthy and growing youth football program is quality coaching. A lot of the rest takes care of itself when you have the right coaches in place. Ive started and ran several large orgs with 400 kids and consult on a professional basis with 100s of youth football programs all over the US, I know what Im talking about. Parents are clueless as to the amount of time, MONEY and effort that goes into coaching on and off the field. You have no clue of what they have to put up with, from selfish self centered agenda driven parents. Coaches Coach Players Play Parents Parent Here is what you as a parent should do: Make sure little Johnny shows up to practice on time- instead of bringing him late where he misses important parts of practice Make sure and pick up little Johnny at the end of practice, I cant count the number of times Ive had to wait 30-45 minutes after practice for mom to finish watching her program, while I wait with her son to make sure no one kidnaps him, meanwhile my wife and family are waiting for me to come home. Support the coach, don't backstab him or use your very limited "understanding" of the game youve gotten from TV or other gossipers to make "suggestions." If you are a paralegal, you wouldnt want the relative of a clinet coming in to give you advice based on something they picked up on a 1980s LA Law TV show. Dont do the same to the coach. Teach little Johnny respect for authority and to accept constructive criticism well instead of sending up a kid who questions everything, never admits a fault and thinks he can do no wrong-thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Teach little Johnny a little bit about selflessness and teamwork. We love it when we get kids who are all about themselves and wont accept a role on the team that is in the best interest of the team rather than all about them. We love it when parents and players whine about what position they are playing. Make sure little Johnny understands he has to work for anything to succeed. We love it when we get kids who think they should play the communist influenced same amount of time as Billy even though Johnny isnt in the same solar system at Billy when it comes to working hard in practice. Make sure to teach little Johnny to be thankful. We love working with kids who think everyone owes them everything. We love putting in 100s of hours of time and spending our own money on gas, coaching materials, coaching clinics and the like and not even get a thank you note at the end of the season from the people we invested all of our free time for- instead of spending it at home with our families. That should do you for starters. If you love all the drama, get involved in cheerleading, they thrive on all that stuff. I think it's the main reason it exists. Im glad there is something for those people to do with all their free time instead of getting involved in youth football. |
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Post by coachschro on Sept 8, 2011 23:37:32 GMT -6
Well that just about sums it up  |
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Post by jrk5150 on Sept 9, 2011 6:53:16 GMT -6
Heh - post of the freakin year.
I take offense? Really? I mean, REALLY? Way too easily offended then, LOL.
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Post by coachdoug on Sept 10, 2011 22:24:45 GMT -6
I take offense to coachdoug about clueless parents. 1st off without we clueless parents you wouldnt have youth football...we provide the kids, we volunteer, we pay. We are here to get a clue!! Well, I didn't take your comment nearly as seriously as some of the others here did - I pretty much assumed you were kidding. But, just in case you weren't kidding, let me explain what I meant. I wasn't saying that ALL parents are clueless - I was saying that an online forum for parents would most likely attract that SUBGROUP of parents that are clueless and want to complain the most. For the more reasonable parents, of which there are many, coming to a board like this one would probably do them more good. I get, though, that there are a number of topics that are unlikely to come up here (as mentioned by several of the other posters), so maybe a sub-board for parents would possibly be a good idea, although I have no idea whether the people that run things here would be interested in such a thing. In any event, I hope that helps you to understand better what I was getting at. |
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