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Post by coachjblair on Nov 25, 2006 19:04:00 GMT -6
I was just wondering how you guys would feel about hiring a person that wants to be an assistant coach and has no real aspirations of being a head coach.
The reason I ask is due to the fact my goal is to be one of the top QB coaches in the game when it is all said and done, and I don’t really care to be a head coach. But I know some people have said they won’t hire a coach unless he wants to be a head coach. So I was wondering if I should say I want to be a head coach when in interviews even though my goal is to be a top QB coach.
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 25, 2006 20:04:23 GMT -6
It's a good question. If you're a younger coach, you might not realize that being a head coach is something that you might grow into. On the other hand, not everyone is cut out to be a head coach, as many teams have found out after hiring successful coordinators only to find out they just were not wired to handle everything that comes across the head coaches desk.
My suggestion would be to say something along the lines that ultimately you would like to be a head coach but right now, you want to learn as much as possible from an excellant head coach and his staff. The answer shows a long term outlook of goal setting while acknowledging your present level of skill and desire.
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Post by tog on Nov 25, 2006 20:29:56 GMT -6
Be yourself. There are a lot of HC's out there that want good quality assistants that they can count on over a long period to get things done.
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 26, 2006 5:11:44 GMT -6
I think there are alot of guys that are perfectly happy being assistants and prefer not to be in the spot light or under the gun in the way the hc is. I read about guys that were assistants for like 20 years...being an OC without having to deal with parents is a nice deal.
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Post by saintrad on Nov 26, 2006 18:56:05 GMT -6
i work with two coaches this year that fit that role: my DC/line coach has 20 yrs experince, my OC/receivers coach had 38 yrs experience. I have 15 yrs experience and neither one of them wanted the "headache" of being a HC.
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Post by coachjblair on Nov 26, 2006 19:09:19 GMT -6
I don't know if I would say I don't want the headache of being a head coach I just want to spend my time with QB's and becoming an excellent coach in this area.
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 26, 2006 20:47:05 GMT -6
just coach ... and learn the most you can. work at what you are doing. if a title (or a better position) lands in your lap -- decide then. otherwise, just be the best coach you can be and let the future of "titles' be just that .... a thought in the future.
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Post by 50Murf on Nov 26, 2006 21:09:27 GMT -6
Coach -
I say good for you. Why is it that we worry about titles?
If you want to be the best QB coach, then be it! Do not worry about what others think. Do what drives you, motivates you, and what you can do the best. Some people are workers...some are queen bees.
You should let everyone know how passionate you are in the beginning of an interview....if they do not want your passion and commitment - go to the next guy that does!
I wish you luck...
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Post by mander on Nov 26, 2006 22:22:47 GMT -6
I never understood why my hs D coordinator never went and became a head coach... and 20 years later, I now understand.
If you are working for a great guy, who gives you responsibility and freedom, who shares the same beliefs and values you do, then all you have to do is coach football. Less parent meetings, political battles, whining by other teachers. A great HC lets you focus on football, while he worries about other things, like fundraising.
Sometimes I miss my job as Head JV Coach!
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Post by jdwatters on Nov 26, 2006 22:55:25 GMT -6
I think from another angle, a HC WOULD WANT someone on his staff who is not looking to move up, but rather just excel at his position. I think in a profession where loyalty and commitment are just as important as player talent it would be beneficial to a HC to not have to worry about an assistant questioning him, or thinking he could do a better job, or campaigning behind his back to have him removed, so on and so forth..
I'm sure there are cases where that would happen anyway, but I just think an assistant solely focused on improving his knowledge in one particular position wouldn't be concerning himself with undermining the head coach.
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Post by tothehouse on Nov 27, 2006 0:44:16 GMT -6
JT - Perfect fit at NU. Hone your craft. I have realized that I don't want to be a head coach. I had aspirations when I was younger and will get asked to take over the program in the future.
I love my niche and coaches can be great coaches in their niche. Starting out a coach should shoot for the stars....then they will realize where they will really end up....staying the same spot or moving up the ladder to the top.
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 27, 2006 10:43:09 GMT -6
Every boss needs good managers below him. There are many good programs that have very little turnover. Look at Joe Pa's right hand man Jerry Sundusky. The best coach I ever worked with when I was a head coach was a guy my age who told me he had no aspirations of being a head coach he just wanted to be a D-coord b/c he hated all the admin work that went along with the HC job. He said he was glad to help me with whatever I needed him.
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 27, 2006 10:53:39 GMT -6
mickey andrews has been with bowden for how long? 22 years plus?
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 27, 2006 11:03:59 GMT -6
Some coaches want to promote their assistants, others do not. Personally I wont ever work for another coach who isnt working tirelessly to promote his assistants.
Atilla the hun "never tolerate anyone with their own ambitions"
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Post by dsqa on Nov 27, 2006 12:28:59 GMT -6
Coach blair, I appreciate your struggle as a qb coach, offensive coordinator, and a head coach myself. I wear multiple hats. There are plenty of great head coaches that would love to have a loyal assistant like what you are describing, and I think that letting people know you are up for a HC job at some point, leaves the door open for you to change your mind. One thing I will say about doing both. I can hire what I need around me to let me work with my QBs. I also am able to have more say in what is done offensively to benefit the QBs I am training. It is tough on a QB coach to have developed him to be multi-dimensional as a player, only to continually have a one dimensional OC calling plays over the top of you. I am not saying that is guaranteed to happen, but over time, you may find your desires changing to include a lot more creative input to the system you are building a QB for, and as a HC, you do have a pretty strong vote. Just suggesting that you grow in confidence as a QB coach, and you will find the right timing for what is next. You will know. I respect your love of this position. I do share that sentiment. All the best. Darin Slack www.quarterbackacademy.com
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2006 14:10:07 GMT -6
And, you never know when you might change your mind. When I got into the profession (only five years ago) I told myself I would never be a HC. Now, I will be applying for HC jobs this offseason because I have learned it is what I want to do.
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Post by coachdawhip on Nov 27, 2006 17:58:32 GMT -6
There are coaches that want nothing but good assistants, look for that coach.
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Post by edwardslv on Nov 29, 2006 8:46:35 GMT -6
I used to pray I'd become a head coach. Be careful what you pray for!!!
As a head coach, I respect the assistant that wants to be a HC, but also the assistant who doesn't. I do NOT want a staff filled w/ guys that want to be head coaches. Nor do I want a staff filled w/ guys that do not. Like tog said: Just be yourself.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Nov 29, 2006 9:13:07 GMT -6
I used to say that I didn't want to be a head coach, I was happy being the O-line coach- that was 5 years ago and much has changed since then (OC 4 years, 2@WR, 2@QB).
My next career move will be as a HC and I don't see anything wrong with hiring people that just want to be an assistant- as long as they're motivated and care about the success of these young men.
To me, if someone takes a asst. job and is immediatley thinking about how they can be a head coach at this/another school- they probably won't concentrate on the task at hand and our team's success will suffer. And what HC wants that?
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Post by biggroff on Nov 29, 2006 12:41:07 GMT -6
I have been a DC for 10 years and Love it. I work for a Head coach that lets me have free regin of the defense and even lets me dictate how defensive practice will be run.
I have had my chances to be a Head Coach. My current Head Coach always jokes with me about when I am leaving to be a HC. I know I could do it BUT I also know the time and emotional energy it takes to be the head Guy.
I love the time I put into teaching math and the time I speand with my kids too much to put that kind of time into being a head coach. I am not wired to deal wth all the political stuff and dealing with paperwork, parents, media, etc. I Just want to coach football and be in the weight room getting kids stronger.
You need to do what is best for you, your type of personallity. Some people are wired to be the HC, some are not. BE the best coach you can be, change kids lives, and really learn the game of football, and coach for a guy you cn beleive in. If the opportunity to be a HC comes your way and it feels right , go for it. If you never feel the urge to be the head guy then it is not ment to be.
I have known some tremendous coaches who never flet the urge to be the HEad guy.
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