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Post by endersgame on Jan 12, 2011 2:15:13 GMT -6
I'm not coaching yet, but I continue to study the game everyday while enrolled in a Physical Education program at a two-year school. I'm just curious what common errors everyone made in their first year of coaching. I'm sure a lot of us here have made the mistake of focusing too much on scheme, so hopefully if you mention that you can elaborate with a small story or mention another mistake you made.
What are some of the errors you made?
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Post by airmale on Jan 12, 2011 5:55:40 GMT -6
Couldn't get good assistants. Best AC was a 19 yr old kid. (Now a great coach). So, I thought to do it all myself. Insert meathead joke here! Would have been much better off not micromanaging everything and doing what I should. Live and learn.
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Post by coachdubyah on Jan 12, 2011 7:14:45 GMT -6
Thought it was all about scheme. Had to big of a chip on my shoulder and got frustrated too easy. (They're just kids!) Thought I was smarter than my co workers that had been doing this longer. (I may have been in some situations. lol) -I was guilty of all of these. That's all I can think of right now.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jan 12, 2011 7:18:53 GMT -6
confusing yelling and swearing for coaching
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Post by champ93 on Jan 12, 2011 8:25:31 GMT -6
agree with dubyah--thought is was all about scheme, which led to too many plays.
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Post by indian1 on Jan 12, 2011 8:25:47 GMT -6
I've made too many to list or try to mention here but the first time I read this it was like getting a much needed slap upside the head.
COMMON COACHING ERRORS AND HOW TO AVIOD THEM By: Bud Wilkinson (Winner of 47 straight games & several National Championships at Oklahoma in the 1950’s) GENERAL COMMENTS: The best coach is the one who makes the fewest mistakes; the one who does the best teaching job; the one who is the best organizer. Writing the X’s & O’s is not the most important thing. There are 22 variables in a football game. Coach must be a salesman to the extent that when his team loses, they don’t blame him or the offensive and/or defensive system, but rather themselves. ERRORS IN TEACHING METHODS: FIRST = FAILURE TO USE TIME EFFICIENTLY. Failure to recognize the time factor available to get the job done. Planning makes for valuable use of time. Too long on any one thing produces boredom. When boredom comes in, learning goes out. Football players have a short attention span. Hold to time schedule. SECOND = FAILURE TO EXPLAIN THE PURPOSE OF THE DRILL. Tell the boy WHY he is doing what he is trying to accomplish and he will do a better job. Explain WHY, then show HOW. THIRD = IMPROPER TEACHING PROGRESSION. You can’t teach a boy how to block until he has learned stance. If he hasn’t learned stance, he doesn’t know how to step out of the stance into the block. FOURTH = TOO MUCH VERBAL INSTRUCTION ON THE FIELD. How much can boy learn from your verbal instruction with his helmet on, he’s breathing hard, he aches, he’s stunned, etc. Do WHO and WHY in chalk talk. Teach assignments before hitting the field. Correct on the field. Teach – no! (HOW is taught on the field – not WHO & WHY). FIFTH = TOO MUCH DEMONSTRATION BY COACH. How much you know is not important. How much player knows is. SIXTH = BEING ON THE FIELD TOO LONG. Better to have a team eager to play rather than physically tired. How long to practice is a judgment factor. Cut down as season goes along – not going to change mechanical ability late in season. Only one rule never violated at Oklahoma. If one coach on staff feels practice too long, we must cut it down. More boys play poorly because they practiced too long than boys playing poorly because they didn’t practice long enough. ERRORS IN TACTICS AND STRATEGY: FIRST = TACTICS AND VICTORY. You get very few victories on tactics. Victories come if you can out block, out tackle, out fundamental your opponent. Red Sanders quote: “Intimidate them physically”! Outmaneuver – no. Defeat – yes. SECOND = CLEAR CUT PHILOSOPHY A MUST. Decide on an offense and defense that will suit your personnel then stick to it. Depth of morale can be determined by a kid’s reaction to a loss. If morale deep, they’ll blame themselves. If morale shallow, they’ll blame you. THIRD = TOO MANY PLAYS AND DEFENSES. Subtract the number of different plays used in the game from the total number of plays you practiced. If this number is too large you better get rid of some plays. It is difficult enough to know when to run off- tackle, but if you have four ways to run off-tackle, you will never get the right play. Beauty of Split-T was it’s very limited number of plays ERRORS IN JUDGMENT: FIRST = BE REALISTIC ABOUT PLAYER’S ABILITY. Don’t just put an X or an O on the board. Put up the boy’s name. Immediately his limitations affect the offense or defense you put up. Whale of a lot of difference between Dick Butkus and Humpty Dumpty. SECOND = WHEN CHIPS ARE DOWN, BEST PLAYERS ARE IN THE GAME. It is a mistake to be able to play blue chippers only one way. Say best kid you have can only go on offense. Say opponent has ball for 45 minutes. These are 45 minutes he cannot help you. ERRORS IN OFF FIELD RELATIONSHIP: FIRST = RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER FACULTY MEMBERS. The environment that exists has a lot to do with winning or losing. If they are with you, your job is easier. If they are against you, you’re in trouble. Work on a program of how to win friends and influence faculty members. SECOND = ORGANIZE A MOTHER’S CLUB. Get mother on your side by pointing out to her what he can get out of football besides winning games. THIRD = PRESS, TV, AND RADIO. Straight up fact of life that the great majority of people get their impression of you from what they read in the paper, see on TV, or hear on radio. Their jobs depend on info. Get it to them to make their jobs easier. Get these people on your side. Let them know what you’re doing. They will interpret what you’re doing in the way you want it interpreted if they are with you. ERRORS IN DEVELOPING MORALE (MORALE IS TO THE PHYSICAL AS 4 IS TO 1). FIRST = FOOTBALL BEGINS WITH MORALE! Once you get morale, it is easy to maintain. How to get it is a problem. SECOND = HOW TO LOSE MORALE. Do what you said you’re going to do. Don’t say we’re going to practice 1 ½ hours and go 2 ½ hours. Training rules – if you’re not going to enforce them, don’t have them. THIRD = MORALE STEMS FROM DISCIPLINE. FOURTH = TREAT PLAYERS AS A PERSON. If he feels you are interested in him only as a football player, he won’t go all out for you. If you are interested in his academics, his personal problems, etc. and he knows this, he’ll go all out for you. Convince him that football is good for his future. FIFTH = One year, Knute Rockne had 2 QB’s. Under great athlete, team failed; under mediocre QB, team succeeded. Why? Captain’s reply – “the great athlete is trying to show how good HE is. The TEAM is trying to make the average guy look good”. COACH IN YOUR OWN WAY: FIRST = DON’T COPY! Note clinicians and their personalities. ALL different ways of being successful. Plan carefully in the off season. Can’t take golf lessons between the 8th green and 9th tee. CONCLUDING REMARKS: The man who is best organized and does the best teaching job, is the best coach.
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Post by lochness on Jan 12, 2011 8:42:42 GMT -6
The most common mistakes are those listed multiple times already:
-Thinking you know more than you do -Focusing on scheme, because it's easy and sexy rather than focusing on technique, because it's tedious and hard.
I was STRONGLY guilty of both as a younger coach.
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Post by zherteltherrien on Jan 12, 2011 9:04:59 GMT -6
Last year was my second year coaching and I was given the newly formed freshman team. I was the only coach for the team and was responsible for offense and defense. Here are my biggest mistakes from the season.
Offense- on offense I attempted to use double wing, some wingT and some spread. What ended up happening is we ran a lot of plays but only a few successfully. HalfwAy through the year I went to a double wing base with a end over shotgun wild cat look for a change of pace from the double wing. We were much more successful after these changes. Just needed to Keep It Simple Stupid.
Defense- I was not expecting to have to run the defense but we were unable to find another freshman coach. Because I was unprepared I was not able to teach the kids the proper techniques and alignments. After the first few games this as well improved.
Overall you need to keep things simple and work within what you know. you should not install something because it looks good when a major college program runs it, instead it should be something that fits your scheme and personal. Preparation is also necessary. "knowing is half the battle"
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Post by runtoball on Jan 12, 2011 9:10:35 GMT -6
lochness will love this one, but trying to change things during the season. We had some injuries my first year and switched defenses mid season thinking it would help us cover up those injuries. We laid a huge egg that friday and got beat by 4 scores by a team i felt we were better than going into the game. We got better as the year went on, but were never as fundamentally sound as we had been early in the year.
Whatever schemes/techniques you start teaching in july/august....stick with them. do not try to change something. You are better off with a lesser athlete having 3 months of practice than you are trying to cover him up
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Post by notdarkyet75 on Jan 12, 2011 9:18:28 GMT -6
Thinking I could solely rely on the information/coaching I received in HS. Lesson learned quick.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 12, 2011 10:10:46 GMT -6
I developed "buddy" or "big brother" relationships with some of my players when I needed to establish better, professional boundaries. It made it very difficult to establish firm discipline when I needed to.
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Post by seagull73 on Jan 12, 2011 12:19:01 GMT -6
Thinking I can out coach everyone on Friday night. You need to out coach every one from March - August.
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Post by panthercoach10 on Jan 12, 2011 12:29:38 GMT -6
Don't be in a hurry to move up the ladder. Don't think the only good coaches are the ones st the varsity level.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Jan 12, 2011 12:41:41 GMT -6
Remembering that your role is to help the head coach implement his plan. He already knows what he wants to do, and he's hiring you to help him do it. Too often young guys come in with their own ideas on how things should be done, and they get angry, and sometimes disloyal, because their opinions are either rejected or ignored. Prove yourself through loyalty and hard work over time, and you will become a trusted assistant who's opinion is valued and sought after because he will know that your heart is in the right place, that your main concern is for the kids and not just your career or your own ego, and that your suggestions will come within the framework of his program.
Good Luck!
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Post by coachcb on Jan 12, 2011 12:42:59 GMT -6
Don't be in a hurry to move up the ladder. Don't think the only good coaches are the ones st the varsity level. This is a very good point. Start out at the lower levels: youth and middle school ball. You'll thank yourself for it in the end. The seasons are short, the schemes have to be very, very simple, and you'll be dealing with very basic fundamentals.
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Post by coachdubyah on Jan 12, 2011 13:19:07 GMT -6
Remembering that your role is to help the head coach implement his plan. He already knows what he wants to do, and he's hiring you to help him do it. Too often young guys come in with their own ideas on how things should be done, and they get angry, and sometimes disloyal, because their opinions are either rejected or ignored. Prove yourself through loyalty and hard work over time, and you will become a trusted assistant who's opinion is valued and sought after because he will know that your heart is in the right place, that your main concern is for the kids and not just your career or your own ego, and that your suggestions will come within the framework of his program. Good Luck! GUILTY ;D
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Post by coachcb on Jan 12, 2011 14:18:50 GMT -6
I'll echo the statements about knowing your place as an assistant. Personally, I knew my role as an assistant: I implemented whatever the HC was doing. And, I did so even if I completely disagreed with what we were doing. It's not like you're going to affect any change by telling the HC/OC/DC how much dislike what's going on. I kept my trap shut unless I had an idea that was well thought-out and proactive. I generally didn't say anything unless I felt that we weren't being fundamentally sound.
And, even then, I picked my battles wisely. If two coaches are going at it about how to defend something and Coach A is absolutely right (no question) and Coach B is completely wrong, you still need to blend into the wall-paper. Let the HC/OC/DC deal with them and stay out of it. I don't know how many times I have coached with guys who just couldn't keep their noses out of sh-t.
I worked with a first-year guy who made one very stupid statement following a game and it followed him around for the rest of the season. He was a good guy and a decent first-year coach but he was never taken seriously after piping off.
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Post by nexthc on Jan 12, 2011 20:20:58 GMT -6
Thought that I knew it all. Came to find out, I did not know anything. "Any Expert was once a beginner." Not that I am an expert, but I know so much more now then I did 17 years ago, and I am still learning.
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Post by juancsusb on Jan 12, 2011 20:51:16 GMT -6
We had no offensive identity, we were doing too much. Hiring some idiots as assistant coaches. I should have done a better job of checking references.
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Post by onelooneyzeta on Jan 12, 2011 21:58:48 GMT -6
It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
I was fortunate to be on a really good staff my first couple years. I always was very conscious of that. I got lucky and didn't insert my foot in my mouth to much. I think that is what made my first couple years coaching pretty good.
I'm not going to lie to you guys we didn't win a lot of games and it cost all of us our job. But, it was a good staff. I can look back on that now and realize that. It's really not the scheme or even fundamentals. After being at a few different places and finding a home somewhere I like and we are winning I can say, it truly is all about the Jimmy's and Joe's. Don't get me wrong, as a coach you need to understand and learn the game. Be a good teacher, but sometimes it's just not going to work. Sometimes there's more to the losing than the coaches. Don't beat yourself up if you find yourself in that kind of situation. If they've lost for 30 years, then all you can do is the best job you can do.
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Post by dacoordinator on Jan 13, 2011 8:03:31 GMT -6
Well, I'm a first year coach for basketball this year, head coach at that. Man its hard on me right now. Because I feel like I am doing a fairly good job with what I have, but the wins aren't coming. So when they wins don't come I partly blame myself and mostly blame the kids. And I shouldn't do that
But anyway. I think first year mistakes are not holding yourself as accountable as you should. Not being organized. Not teaching the fundamentals, trying to teach concepts that are more on the advanced side.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Jan 13, 2011 9:38:05 GMT -6
A couple of posters have already said this but to reiterate, not being organized is a sure-fire way to make for a long season.
By having your preseason and camp charted out in February, for instance, the rest of your staff can begin expanding their tool kits for every precious, finite minute it takes to install, rep, practice, execute all that needs to be accomplished to be successful.
Being organized also saves a lot of time when you're in the heart of your season when time is really crunched.
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Post by dhooper on Jan 13, 2011 9:45:40 GMT -6
jpdaley25 . Love the players and they will play hard for you.
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Post by dhooper on Jan 13, 2011 9:46:32 GMT -6
jpdaley25 100% agree
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 13, 2011 10:25:16 GMT -6
Oh my goodness was I an {censored} my first year...
(coaching frosh OL in a bad program) Kids would miss an assignment and I'd scream at them for not being able to get the block. Kids would go offsides and I'd ask them if they could count to one. Had one kid that just couldn't avoid holding and I swear he's part of the reason my hair is thinning. Had kids that were lazy or weak, so I tried to 'toughen them up' with stupid drills and punishment.
I was just that typical bad, {censored} coach. Kinda scares me when I look back because it was honestly only like 6 years ago. Basically, I was too much Bobby Knight and not enough John Wooden, too much fire and brimstone and not enough Season of Life. I was young...
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 13, 2011 10:27:28 GMT -6
Thought that I knew it all. Came to find out, I did not know anything. "Any Expert was once a beginner." Not that I am an expert, but I know so much more now then I did 17 years ago, and I am still learning. This is what gives me hope for myself and makes me feel better for being pretty lousy early on in my career. It's not where you start, it's where you finish.
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Post by chuff on Jan 13, 2011 10:30:29 GMT -6
Absolutely guilty of trying to do too much- I recently found a few of my offensive call sheets from my first year... It was three pages long!!
Along the lines of doing too much, I really neglected my loved ones those first few years. I felt that I have to prove myself and became obsessed with football. I'm surprised that I am not divorced! Do not neglect the family: they will love you win or lose!!
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Post by phantom on Jan 13, 2011 10:45:50 GMT -6
confusing yelling and swearing for coaching I'll agree with that. When I look back at my first year I'm embarrassed at what a jack-off I was.
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Post by coachbrown3 on Jan 13, 2011 12:11:56 GMT -6
I remember my first year trying to break out my playbook like I was some genius! Man, it's funny to see how little I knew and still don't know about the game.
My advice is to stay humble and find a coach or staff that will help you grow as a coach. That means learning how to relate to people first and foremost.
Look in the mirror and be a thumb pointer, not a finger pointer when things go wrong.
Lastly, be where you are. Don't get so caught up in where you want to be that you don't take care of business the way you should in the present.
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Post by runtoball on Jan 13, 2011 14:46:32 GMT -6
Another one i thought of yesterday...respect everyone.
The first time I saw a double wing team play i thought it was the dumbest thing I had ever seen. Why would you put everyone in so tight like that? that's just stupid. Then they beat us the next two years. Coach left, they hired a guy who ran the spread the next year and were much easier to defend.
On a side note, I then learned as much as possible about the double wing and now run it myself.
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