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Post by jpdaley25 on Jan 11, 2011 22:25:55 GMT -6
I was creating a poster today that listed the top ten reasons why games are lost, and I thought that it would be interesting to get your input.
Here is my list:
1. Failure to prepare in the off-season - key players get injured
2. Turnovers
3. Missed tackles
4. Blown assignments
5. Penalties
6. Taking plays off, lack of effort
7. Poor execution
8. Missed blocks
9. Lapses in the kicking game
10. A lack of confidence - self doubt
What should I add or subtract and in what order? Thanks in advance for any input!
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 11, 2011 22:58:29 GMT -6
Can't say that I would argue with anything on that list. Interested in what others might see. Good post.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jan 11, 2011 23:09:43 GMT -6
i'd flip it around and make it a top ten why games are won -- positive instead of negative
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Post by julien on Jan 12, 2011 0:11:31 GMT -6
i'd flip it around and make it a top ten why games are won -- positive instead of negative 100% agree. Better be positive in my mind. |
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Post by coachbdud on Jan 12, 2011 1:03:49 GMT -6
I think turnovers are the #1
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Post by black on Jan 12, 2011 1:05:57 GMT -6
i'd flip it around and make it a top ten why games are won -- positive instead of negative 100% agree. Better be positive in my mind. Picked this up from a coaching clinic "never show the kids what they're doing wrong, only mention the right way to do things." that way when they think back on their coaching there is no confusion. I think that can be applied here. |
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Post by gunrun on Jan 12, 2011 5:36:17 GMT -6
Just throwing the first few things off the top of my head:
#1 reason for winning - Investment - guys paid the price to win in the off-season. They will find a way to win because they have too much time and effort invested into the football program.
#2 - Turnovers - "More games are lost than won" - Bobby Bowden
#3 - Accountability - everyone holding one another up to high standards and not wanting to let their brothers down
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Post by coachjd on Jan 12, 2011 9:03:09 GMT -6
I like the spin on this thread!!! Keep it positive.
gunrun - good start to the list.
#4. Must be confident in all of our abilities.
#5. PMA - Positive Mental Attitude.
#6. Fundamentally Sound. Blocking and Tackling
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Post by ndoc on Jan 12, 2011 9:03:57 GMT -6
#1 reason for winning = talent.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 9:17:25 GMT -6
Talent should be on the list, but if it was number 1 the more talented team would always win and we all know that doesn't always happen. And, I feel that a lot of time "talent" is developed as a direct result of gunnrun's number 1.
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Post by gunrun on Jan 12, 2011 11:38:12 GMT -6
Fundamentals are definitely huge. Cripes, it's all about them fundy's!
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 12, 2011 11:42:43 GMT -6
i'd flip it around and make it a top ten why games are won -- positive instead of negative Absolutely brillian idea!! |
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Post by phantom on Jan 12, 2011 11:48:30 GMT -6
#1 reason for winning = talent. This is why I'd keep the list as it is-reasons for losing rather than trying to spin it positively. You can do everything on the list right but still lose to a team with superior talent. There's a saying that more games are lost than are won and I believe it. |
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Post by superpower on Jan 12, 2011 12:26:49 GMT -6
I was creating a poster today that listed the top ten reasons why games are lost, and I thought that it would be interesting to get your input. Here is my list: 1. Failure to prepare in the off-season - key players get injured 2. Turnovers 3. Missed tackles 4. Blown assignments 5. Penalties 6. Taking plays off, lack of effort 7. Poor execution 8. Missed blocks 9. Lapses in the kicking game 10. A lack of confidence - self doubt What should I add or subtract and in what order? Thanks in advance for any input! I don't see anything that focuses on the coaches' role in losing. What about poor play-calling? What about failure to prepare thoroughly? I am sure there are other things that we as coaches do that lead to losing as well. Remember, it isn't just the players who lose games. In fact, one could argue that most (maybe all) of the items on your list start with a failure to coach it up. I am certainly not saying that coaches are the sole reason for losing, but your list seems to overlook the coaches' responsibility. |
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Post by phantom on Jan 12, 2011 14:56:02 GMT -6
I was creating a poster today that listed the top ten reasons why games are lost, and I thought that it would be interesting to get your input. Here is my list: 1. Failure to prepare in the off-season - key players get injured 2. Turnovers 3. Missed tackles 4. Blown assignments 5. Penalties 6. Taking plays off, lack of effort 7. Poor execution 8. Missed blocks 9. Lapses in the kicking game 10. A lack of confidence - self doubt What should I add or subtract and in what order? Thanks in advance for any input! I don't see anything that focuses on the coaches' role in losing. What about poor play-calling? What about failure to prepare thoroughly? I am sure there are other things that we as coaches do that lead to losing as well. Remember, it isn't just the players who lose games. In fact, one could argue that most (maybe all) of the items on your list start with a failure to coach it up. I am certainly not saying that coaches are the sole reason for losing, but your list seems to overlook the coaches' responsibility. I'd assume that the poster is for the kids. |
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Post by John Knight on Jan 12, 2011 15:55:33 GMT -6
1. The team that makes the fewest mistakes will win.
2. Play for and make the breaks and when one comes your way - SCORE.
3. If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.
4. Protect our kickers, our QB, our lead and our ball game.
5. Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.
6. Press the kicking game. Here is where the breaks are made.
7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes.
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Post by fingerz42 on Jan 12, 2011 16:36:27 GMT -6
I was creating a poster today that listed the top ten reasons why games are lost, and I thought that it would be interesting to get your input. Here is my list: 1. Failure to prepare in the off-season - key players get injured 2. Turnovers 3. Missed tackles 4. Blown assignments 5. Penalties 6. Taking plays off, lack of effort 7. Poor execution 8. Missed blocks 9. Lapses in the kicking game 10. A lack of confidence - self doubt What should I add or subtract and in what order? Thanks in advance for any input! I don't see anything that focuses on the coaches' role in losing. What about poor play-calling? What about failure to prepare thoroughly? I am sure there are other things that we as coaches do that lead to losing as well. Remember, it isn't just the players who lose games. In fact, one could argue that most (maybe all) of the items on your list start with a failure to coach it up. I am certainly not saying that coaches are the sole reason for losing, but your list seems to overlook the coaches' responsibility. Obviously, the coach is preparing himself as well, but he isn't selling the program to himself. I think the idea was to get the kids to buy into the program and value certain ideals. |
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Post by cc on Jan 12, 2011 20:03:32 GMT -6
Here is my positive version
Top 10 Ways to be a Winner
1. Prepare in the off-season – Not just to get bigger, faster, stronger, but great players know this is also how to avoid getting injured later.
2. Turnovers – Create them on defense. Protect the ball on offense. “It’s all about the ball”
3. Tackling – Make tackles on defense. Make people miss on offense.
4. Assignments – know what you have to do, how to do it, and then do it so you can do it without having to think about it.
5. Penalties – Make smart decisions. Know the rules. Be composed during chaos.
6. Effort – never take a play off. Play like you practice. Practice at game speed.
7. Execution – be consistently great so when the challenge comes you are ready.
8. Blocking – Make your block. Every block is important. On defense, refuse to be blocked or stay blocked.
9. The kicking game. Make special teams special! Make big plays and do not let them make a big play. Know your assignment and execute.
10. Have confidence – Positive self talk. If you truly believe you can, you can!
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Post by chuff on Jan 13, 2011 10:44:34 GMT -6
Here is our Top 5
1. Win the Turnover Battle
2. Win the battle of Field Position
3. Break and contain the Big Play
4. Score in the Red Zone
5. Win 3rd Down
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 18, 2011 7:58:33 GMT -6
don't let the kicking game beat you, when a team blocks a punt, they win 87% of the time
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Post by garrytom55 on Jan 18, 2011 8:21:55 GMT -6
I agree with everything on there...but I would move effort way up the list. Effort is all the off season work. Effort is creating turnovers, making tackles etc. I would be effort as the top reason why we win games.
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Post by coachbrown3 on Jan 18, 2011 9:56:39 GMT -6
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. Here's my three things that we talk about in playing winning football: 1.Play hard 2.Play fast 3.Play smart These three things can encompass everything you can think of, effort, discipline, knowing your assignments, hustle, etc. That's all you need really, just those three simple categories. Now, if you have absolutely NO TALENT, well good luck......you do still need some ability to win  |
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Post by jgordon1 on Jan 18, 2011 10:36:23 GMT -6
Fundamentals are definitely huge. Cripes, it's all about them fundy's! Am I the only one that got this....it's a play on Brophy |
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Post by casec11 on Jan 18, 2011 14:07:11 GMT -6
Jpdaliy,
I don't know that I would put key players getting injured on a poster the kids see, what happens if during the season a key player goes down... Can they look back at that and use it as an excuse?
Last year TD maker put a list of cancer things and it was negative... so I took it and re posted everything spinning it positive to what winners do.. i think he posted both side by side
Maybe do the same... what will get you beat and
what will help you win (cc is pretty good)
1. Off-season preparation
2. Ball security
3. Great tackling technique
4. Knowing your assignments
5. Discipline and Focus
6. Full Effort
7. Execute, Execute, Execute
8. Blocking till the wistle
9. Focus on the kicking game
10. Confidence in yourself and each other
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Post by sportsleader on Jan 20, 2011 9:56:38 GMT -6
The 2 biggest reasons you lose: Laziness and Selfishness The 2 biggest reasons you win (Talent aside): Willpower and Love sportsleaderusa.blogspot.com/ |
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Post by saintrad on Jan 30, 2011 14:22:35 GMT -6
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Post by mattyg2787 on Jan 30, 2011 15:13:33 GMT -6
i'd flip it around and make it a top ten why games are won -- positive instead of negative Theres more reason for this then making your players feels good. Your subconcious is both a wonderful and terrible thing. It does exactly what you think. So if you spend your trainings telling your guys "don't fumble, don't miss blocks," etc then when it gets to game day and 4th quarter when your guys are gassed, their subconscious kicks in and tells the body to "fumble, miss blocks" However if you spend your time having guys hear "cover up the ball, get your hands on their chest " (ie.positive messages) then come 4th quarter, the brain starts telling the body to do exactly that. So with your poster that guys would be reading daily, make it positive. Make tackles, make blocks, make catches, cover up while running At the end of the day, even muscle memory is run by your brain |
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Post by gunrun on Jan 30, 2011 15:56:39 GMT -6
i'd flip it around and make it a top ten why games are won -- positive instead of negative Theres more reason for this then making your players feels good. Your subconcious is both a wonderful and terrible thing. It does exactly what you think. So if you spend your trainings telling your guys "don't fumble, don't miss blocks," etc then when it gets to game day and 4th quarter when your guys are gassed, their subconscious kicks in and tells the body to "fumble, miss blocks" However if you spend your time having guys hear "cover up the ball, get your hands on their chest " (ie.positive messages) then come 4th quarter, the brain starts telling the body to do exactly that. So with your poster that guys would be reading daily, make it positive. Make tackles, make blocks, make catches, cover up while running At the end of the day, even muscle memory is run by your brain Jimmy Johnson talks about that in his book. It's why it's better to tell dbs to "stay on top of the wr" rather than "don't get beat deep." |
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Post by tractor on Jan 30, 2011 23:42:26 GMT -6
As far as I am concerned it all starts with ATTITUDE. Put it at the top of your list whether it's ranked negatively or positively, whether it's a ranking for players or coaches.
Seems to me that everybody always wants to jump to a discussion of execution first. Okay, but of what real use is great execution without a proper choice of tactics? How can you make a proper choice of tactics without first going over strategic options? How can you discuss strategy without first understanding your hierarchy of goals?
As for goals, it would seem to be impossible to begin formulating them without first getting a fix on your approach and attitude (the "why" of your goals).
Attitudes are nothing more than judgments, basically a person's level of like or dislike for a thing. Fortunately for coaches, they change based on a player's personal experience. (Wow, I really do like peanut butter on my chocolate!)
Not trying to get all psycho-babble, but if a coach is going to go to the trouble of posting a list of points of emphasis, I'm thinking it might be a good idea to begin at the beginning; get the proper attitude rolling first. So I'm a big fan of CoachBrown's post above "Play hard, fast, and smart." Gives the player an inspiration to address his approach. All the coach has to do is make sure that the player understands what attitudes form those three, so that the player can carry them with him as part of his identity; "I'm a hardnosed, fast, and smart football player who can accomplish our goals by properly executing Coach's tactics."
Result oriented goals like "Beat Central" or "Don't throw a pick in the red zone" just don't accomplish a whole lot. Concentrate on installing a winning process by addressing attitudes first.
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Post by phantom on Jan 31, 2011 0:15:22 GMT -6
Theres more reason for this then making your players feels good. Your subconcious is both a wonderful and terrible thing. It does exactly what you think. So if you spend your trainings telling your guys "don't fumble, don't miss blocks," etc then when it gets to game day and 4th quarter when your guys are gassed, their subconscious kicks in and tells the body to "fumble, miss blocks" However if you spend your time having guys hear "cover up the ball, get your hands on their chest " (ie.positive messages) then come 4th quarter, the brain starts telling the body to do exactly that. So with your poster that guys would be reading daily, make it positive. Make tackles, make blocks, make catches, cover up while running At the end of the day, even muscle memory is run by your brain Jimmy Johnson talks about that in his book. It's why it's better to tell dbs to "stay on top of the wr" rather than "don't get beat deep." I believe in positive coaching. In practice or during games we'll never stay things like, "Don't get beat deep" for all of the reasons listed. I also believe, though, that you have to avoid losing before you can win. I see no problem with providing a list of things that will get you beaten. |
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