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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 1, 2011 9:17:49 GMT -6
Is anyone else as excited for this game as I am? I'm a Big 12 guy, but for a couple reasons I can't wait to watch this game this afternoon. This is true power football vs. a defense originally designed to stop the spread. I'm really excited to see how TCU defends Wisconsin.
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Post by wiaa3 on Jan 1, 2011 9:31:10 GMT -6
I am from Wisconsin, so obviously I am biased...but...
I think Wisconsin scores a lot of points, but also gives up some points too.
Wisconsin's OL is so big and strong. It will be hard for TCU to stop their running game.
Wisconsin 42 TCU 28
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 1, 2011 9:39:00 GMT -6
I haven't gotten much of a chance to see Wisconsin play this year. Are they a zone team, or counter/power/iso team? Or both?
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Post by blb on Jan 1, 2011 9:41:56 GMT -6
I haven't gotten much of a chance to see Wisconsin play this year. Are they a zone team, or counter/power/iso team? Or both? Yes (all of the above). West Coast-based Offense. Use lots of movement (H-Back). And their QB and passing game are underrated. Their OC Paul Chryst had a lot of time with Oregon State's Mike Riley before going back to Madison - former Badger QB.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 1, 2011 10:40:10 GMT -6
Yes (all of the above). West Coast-based Offense. Use lots of movement (H-Back). And their QB and passing game are underrated. Their OC Paul Chryst had a lot of time with Oregon State's Mike Riley before going back to Madison - former Badger QB. Thanks. I was reading up on him last night a little bit, after I read he is rumored to be targeted by Texas for their OC job. I imagine it will take either a HC job or a lot of money to pry him away from Madison given he played there and is from the state.
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Post by bucksweepdotcom on Jan 1, 2011 12:29:58 GMT -6
I am curious to see what TCu does on defense too. Will it look like an old school 4-4?
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 1, 2011 12:50:11 GMT -6
I am curious to see what TCu does on defense too. Will it look like an old school 4-4? I think they'll a play a lot of the 2 Robber stuff, which will look like an old 4-4.
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Post by ogre5530 on Jan 1, 2011 12:54:19 GMT -6
Paul Chryst is one of the most underrated coaches in the country. I listened to him speak last year at the Wisconsin coaches clinic and was so impressed by him.
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Post by coachdubyah on Jan 1, 2011 13:03:39 GMT -6
Whatever they do I am sure there will be a thread in the General Defense Section or General Offense section on it. Like it's going to be something new. LOL
All seriousness, I think Wisconsin wins but it will be closer than people think. The key will be the Offense for TCU. Not a lot of people are talking about them, but they have some athletes on the offensive side. They Spread it out and Dalton is good at running the option which may give Wisconsin's D some trouble. I agree that Wisconsin is physically superior over TCU's D, but Wisconsin's D is not all that consistent. If you recall Wisconsin had a lot of problems with Cal Poly's Flexbone a couple of years ago (granted that was a couple of years ago). TCU isnt flexbone, but they have the same type of athletes along with the Option principles. Interested to see how Wisconsin matches up with them on D. Happy New Year everyone!
PS: Jon Gruden should really start announcing college games. Sorry didnt mean to hijack.
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Post by coachbigelow on Jan 1, 2011 17:02:48 GMT -6
So far a great game. First real stop of the game.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 1, 2011 17:14:09 GMT -6
So far a great game. First real stop of the game. Best game of the day without question. TCU having trouble stopping the power run game (Wiscy had 140 yards rushing with 4 mins left in the first half) and Wisconsin is having trouble with TCU's speed on offense.
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Post by coachbigelow on Jan 1, 2011 17:17:01 GMT -6
That fake punt, my gosh not one coach on TCU's staff noticed the punter starting to take off before the penalty was called? They should have been screaming watch the fake.
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Post by Coach Klemme on Jan 1, 2011 18:14:05 GMT -6
That MLB, Tank Carder, he's a dude!
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Post by coachbigelow on Jan 1, 2011 18:26:33 GMT -6
So far the speed is winning. One more quarter to go. One thing to note, as long as the TCU offense keeps driving and chewing clock their defense can rest so they don't get worn down as much in the second half.
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Post by ticobrown on Jan 1, 2011 18:31:36 GMT -6
This is probably the best game played this season.
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Post by coachbigelow on Jan 1, 2011 19:08:12 GMT -6
Wow what an ending. I wonder how Ohio State's President feels now with The Little Sister of the Poor beating a school his team lost to.
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Post by piratefootball on Jan 1, 2011 19:09:04 GMT -6
all good games today..... Great day of football and 1 still to come.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 1, 2011 19:15:14 GMT -6
Not sure why TCU's win is getting all of this post game hype. Does no one remember UTAH just 2 years ago, being the ONLY undefeated team and solidly beating Bama in the Sugar Bowl? or Boise over Oklahoma 4 years ago?
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Post by coachbigelow on Jan 1, 2011 19:18:49 GMT -6
I know, so far those lesser schools are 5-1 in BCS games and the 1 loss is because it was 2 non bcs schools playing each other. They are 5-0 against the big time schools.
Whoops as has been pointed out Hawaii lost to Georgia.
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Post by ticobrown on Jan 1, 2011 19:25:57 GMT -6
I know, so far those lesser schools are 5-1 in BCS games and the 1 loss is because it was 2 non bcs schools playing each other. They are 5-0 against the big time schools. Its unfortunate since I'm a fan of theirs but Hawaii did lose to Georgia in the Sugar Bowl in 2008, . But what a great win by TCU over Wisconsin. Ends a rough day for the B10 today, lol.
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Post by PSS on Jan 1, 2011 19:26:13 GMT -6
Not sure why TCU's win is getting all of this post game hype. Does no one remember UTAH just 2 years ago, being the ONLY undefeated team and solidly beating Bama in the Sugar Bowl? or Boise over Oklahoma 4 years ago? Maybe because TCU's enrollment is only around 9000. Truly one of the small schools out there.
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Post by k on Jan 1, 2011 19:30:16 GMT -6
Before the game I picked TCU to win but was definitely rooting for Wisconsin.
First time I've seen Wisconsin play and wow I was impressed with their offensive line. Wisconsin was the better team. The offensive line, the backs, the defensive line. Very impressive team.
Physically TCU isn't the #2/3 team in the country. But they have "the intangibles" that let them play to that level.
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Post by coachbigelow on Jan 1, 2011 19:33:17 GMT -6
Maybe the reason it is talked about because you had Gordon Gee talking out of his {censored} and calling TCU and Boise the LIttle Sisters of the Poor. Then you have the Big 10 commissioner telling Non AQ conferences to just accept it and that enough has been sacrificed. This before your conference goes 0-5 on New Years Day.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 1, 2011 19:45:12 GMT -6
Not sure why TCU's win is getting all of this post game hype. Does no one remember UTAH just 2 years ago, being the ONLY undefeated team and solidly beating Bama in the Sugar Bowl? or Boise over Oklahoma 4 years ago? Maybe because TCU's enrollment is only around 9000. Truly one of the small schools out there. That's a good point, but TCU's undergrad enrollment is only about 3,000 less than that of "The U". Granted, at those low numbers, that is a hefty percentage. I am just surprised that the ABC coverage team was making such a big deal about a "Non AQ" team winning the Rose Bowl, as if that game had more significance than the Sugar or Fiesta bowls previously won by Utah and Boise.
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Post by ticobrown on Jan 1, 2011 19:46:21 GMT -6
Maybe the reason it is talked about because you had Gordon Gee talking out of his {censored} and calling TCU and Boise the LIttle Sisters of the Poor. Then you have the Big 10 commissioner telling Non AQ conferences to just accept it and that enough has been sacrificed. This before your conference goes 0-5 on New Years Day. Wonder what their excuses are going to be? It better not be because Wisconsin wasn't ready to play because both teams took it to each other. And to think TCU was one bogus Cam Newton/Auburn ruling away from playing Oregon for the BCS Title, smh!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 19:53:38 GMT -6
Not sure why TCU's win is getting all of this post game hype. Does no one remember UTAH just 2 years ago, being the ONLY undefeated team and solidly beating Bama in the Sugar Bowl? or Boise over Oklahoma 4 years ago? I was thinking the same thing when Herbstreit start wondering aloud if the TCU win would change opinions over whether the non-BCS conference schools deserve to play for the title. I said to myself "well, based on recent history for about the last 5 years, I'd say this changes NOTHING." I just wish the NCAA would come out and finally hone up to the fact the over 1/2 of all schools at the BCS level have absolutely no shot at winning the championship and it's all because of money. If they'd just come clean and admit that the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Pac-10, and Big 12 are where the money, ratings, and most of the fan support is and therefore constitute a seperate de facto division that gets to play by different rules, it wouldn't be nearly as frustrating as hearing the same old talking heads spewing the same tired arguments every year over "the little sisters of the poor who couldn't survive in a big conference" yet win whenever they play the best of those teams. Actually, if they'd take this a step further and divide the BCS into 2 divisions, institute some revenue sharing from the big bowls, let the two divisions play each other in the second and third tier bowls, and have seperate championships for each, part of this problem could be solved without the playoff they fear so much. After all, besides the NC game, the bowls aren't much more than hyped up exhibition games with fat payouts attached. As for the game, it was great, but I couldn't help but scratch my head at Wisconsin's decision to throw on the 2 point try. They were running the ball downhill at will on TCU's tired defense. Then on the biggest play of the game, they line up in the gun for a quick pass that gets batted down??? Granted, the man was wide open, but it just seemed to me like they outsmarted themselves on that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 20:07:03 GMT -6
I'm kind of with coachd5O85. Everyone is going gaga over something that happens almost every year! I read on another board that non-AQ schools are now 5-1 in BCS games with the loss coming at the hands of another non-AQ school when Boise beat TCU last year. Okay, so maybe not every year, but about every other year maybe? Kind of losing track of how long we've had the BCS.
Oh, and this was news to me until I read it just a few minutes ago as well: how many people realize the favorite won this game? According to what I read, TCU was a three point favorite.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 1, 2011 21:20:59 GMT -6
As for the game, it was great, but I couldn't help but scratch my head at Wisconsin's decision to throw on the 2 point try. They were running the ball downhill at will on TCU's tired defense. Then on the biggest play of the game, they line up in the gun for a quick pass that gets batted down??? Granted, the man was wide open, but it just seemed to me like they outsmarted themselves on that one. Agreed. I figured a downhull run was coming or boot pass. When they lined up in the gun, I couldn't believe it.
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Post by k on Jan 1, 2011 21:30:27 GMT -6
Agreed. I figured a downhull run was coming or boot pass. When they lined up in the gun, I couldn't believe it. I would have bet on draw after seeing them come out in that...
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Post by coachbdud on Jan 1, 2011 21:42:14 GMT -6
I cant figure out why Wisconnsin didnt run the ball more throughout the game...
Just seemed like they were ripping off good yardage every time and then they would throw a couple incompletions and have to punt.
Even the 2 point I thought they should have ran it in. They were destroying TCU DL and LBs
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