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Post by fishon37 on Dec 12, 2010 7:46:47 GMT -6
Watched a show about him last night....was intrigued by a story that John Madden told of going to a clinic to listen to Lombardi talk.Madden stated that he was a young coach who thought he knew it all so he went in the room and sat in the back(he made reference to sitting in the back like he didn't need to be up closer since he knew everything).Lombardi spoke for 8hrs (4 hrs ,break 4 hrs)on one play(power sweep) 8 HOURS ON ONE PLAY...Madden stated he came away from there realizing he did not know as much football as he thought he did....
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Post by davishfc on Dec 12, 2010 17:52:44 GMT -6
Now that's motivating! Thanks for sharing that Coach.
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Post by baldingmullett on Dec 13, 2010 20:28:47 GMT -6
Saw a biography on HBO today about Lombardi, pretty good.
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Post by brophy on Dec 14, 2010 4:41:36 GMT -6
I was kind of disappointed in the HBO special. It had very little to do with football and droned on about.his.upbringing and personal life.
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Post by superpower on Dec 14, 2010 5:48:17 GMT -6
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Post by coachdennis on Dec 15, 2010 10:33:44 GMT -6
I was kind of disappointed in the HBO special. It had very little to do with football and droned on about.his.upbringing and personal life. They do this to broaden the audience. They KNOW you and I will watch - what they want is for our wives to watch also. It's the same reason why the talking heads on the NFL broadcasts go on and on about "storylines" and star players instead of just focusing on the game. The networks know that the hard core geek fans will watch anyway, but they need to construct the cheesy storyline in order to hook the casual viewers.
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Post by dania on Dec 15, 2010 10:41:07 GMT -6
that story was in the book Bad As$es
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Post by blb on Dec 15, 2010 10:42:57 GMT -6
I grew up on Lombardi (was born in Green Bay).
Frankly anybody who is really interested in him knows all the facts about his career. And coaches today probably wouldn't be very stimulated by his Xs and Os.
I found the interviews with his family, Dave Robinson and Lionel Aldridge's wife, and Gifford about when Lombardi first joined Giants-NFL very enlightening.
And I've read just about every Lombardi-Packer book in the last 50 years.
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Post by John Knight on Dec 15, 2010 11:40:43 GMT -6
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Post by airman on Dec 15, 2010 14:45:03 GMT -6
I played at a high school in which one of the assistant football coaches had played under lombardi. while he respected Lombardi a lot he realized as he got older Lombardi liked to hear himself talk and he was not necessarily the greatest x and o guy but was a master at motivation and organization.
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Post by hawke on Dec 15, 2010 15:29:22 GMT -6
I agree with superpower on reading When Pride Still Mattered. If you really want to know something about Lombardi please read, I Remember Vince Lombardi by Mike Towle. You will get the essence of football as a game that brought out the greatness of people as hard driven people attempting to succeed through guts and determination not the "entertainment" aspects that you see today with all the flair and on the field nonsense from dances to diving into the end zone. Hand the ball to the official and get back in the god damn huddle!!! Class goes a long way.
Hawke
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Post by alen1 on Dec 17, 2010 22:42:53 GMT -6
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Post by John Knight on Dec 18, 2010 9:21:25 GMT -6
We don't coach the same folks or the same game!
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Post by coachcb on Dec 18, 2010 9:31:44 GMT -6
The guy knew what it was all about: getting the most out of your guys, no matter what you have to do.
There's something to his method that I like. He'd get all over guys' a--es on the field and break them down, but he always made sure he built them back up at some point. There's the story about Mike Kramer and how Lombardi just rode the guys all practice. But, afterward, he told him that he'd be the greatest guard in football someday. He drove his players hard but he always let them know that there was a method behind his madness.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 18, 2010 9:32:06 GMT -6
The guy knew what it was all about: getting the most out of your guys, no matter what you have to do.
There's something to his method that I like. He'd get all over guys' a--es on the field and break them down, but he always made sure he built them back up at some point. There's the story about Mike Kramer and how Lombardi just rode the guys all practice. But, afterward, he told him that he'd be the greatest guard in football someday. He drove his players hard but he always let them know that there was a method behind his madness.
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Post by blb on Dec 18, 2010 9:36:41 GMT -6
Mike Kramer?!
LOL - man, you must be a young buck.
No offense. You'd enjoy reading Instant Replay: The Green Bay Diary of Jerry Kramer, the story of Lombardi's last season with the Packers and just a real good football book that looks at the essence of the game from a player's standpoint.
Constantly reminds me of why we play or coach the sport.
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Post by alen1 on Dec 18, 2010 9:52:11 GMT -6
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Post by dania on Dec 18, 2010 13:07:13 GMT -6
We don't coach the same folks or the same game! AMEN TO THAT!!! and its not showing signs of getting better anytime soon.
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