tigerhc
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Post by tigerhc on Dec 1, 2007 22:39:33 GMT -6
Coaches,
I have the possibility of taking over the HC at a school that was primarily a running offense (option team), but I would like to implement the Spread and still keep some of the option they have been running. The purpose for the change is simple, I have been told they have two pretty good QB's returning that throw the ball fairly well. What would be the simpliest but most effective spread package to run? I would like any info on practicing procedures as well as teaching mechanics for the spread. What is the difference between the Tony Franklin, Air Raid, and West Virginia packages?
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Post by brophy on Dec 1, 2007 23:07:13 GMT -6
what (offense) do you know (being the leader of a program as the HC)? Because what makes the "spread" different from any other offense (specifically) to what you are going to accomplish? Are you preparing to change the offense when hose two kids transfer or graduate? I have the possibility of taking over the HC at a school ...... I would like any info on practicing procedures as well as teaching mechanics for the spread. No offense (....zing!), but am I the only one here that is floored by comments like this? If you are looking to lead and take over a program, shouldn't you have a clear idea of WHAT / HOW you are going to lead (and implement)? Why am I making a stink? Because I don't get why folks would consider being a head coach without knowing what they would be doing or how they would do it.  Lets get the gig, then figure out how to do the job after I get it..... |
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tigerhc
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Post by tigerhc on Dec 1, 2007 23:35:56 GMT -6
Brophy,
I appreciate your wisdom and insight, but not your sarcasim. I am a Wing - T guy. I do have a plan in place but was looking for possibilities to add some spread to our Wing package. I am not the guru you are, just looking for suggestions. I will keep my requests to my self. If my ignorence offended any one else please forgive. I am out.
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Post by brophy on Dec 1, 2007 23:40:43 GMT -6
not trying to be a %%$# , but why can't you just run the wing-t with some modifications?
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Post by tog on Dec 1, 2007 23:45:32 GMT -6
what happens when those two qb's leave?
do you have a system?
or an offense based on them
and then have to change the thing wholesale every year after?
brophy makes a good point
run what you know
learn things beyond what you know that fit your talent and adapt a bit
but do not go whole hog into something just because it is the latest craze
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 2, 2007 0:08:02 GMT -6
study, study, study multiple spread offenses. study installation procedures more than plays. study their concepts of "why" they package certain plays with each other. study what they do to take advantage of a defense by formation, by personnel matchup. see if there is any type of scheme (play concept) that can be achieved with your current formations. determine what packages/concepts (philosophy of packaging and why) best suits what you are currently doing - the easiest transition. ignore simply looking at the plays on paper. find out the reasoning behind them. the way in which they are taught .. i.e. if "super play" is a base play or what another play taught first and the reason they run base play makes "super play" super ...
whatever you do, incorporate as much of the current terminology so that if you need to "shelve" it for a while, no biggie. likewise, if you need to add to it, that transition is easier. also, if terminology is more aligned then it makes additions -- and, more importantly --- a complete switch more effective as the players won't even realize that things are shifting
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 2, 2007 0:34:16 GMT -6
Rich Gannon was a wing-t qb...  swdc--While brophy was a bit direct (but for the record, if you got upset about that, you might want to reconsider your venture to be a HC or really work on toughening your skin and accepting criticisms, both constructive like Brophy's, and malicious like your soon to be fan's) he was also right on in his assessment. If you are trying to get a gig, it would behoove you to have your plan entirely worked out. Also, I think you might be so busy with the program transition that you really should be worried about coaching what you know. |
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Post by bulldogoption on Dec 2, 2007 0:43:34 GMT -6
Coaches, I have the possibility of taking over the HC at a school that was primarily a running offense (option team), but I would like to implement the Spread and still keep some of the option they have been running. The purpose for the change is simple, I have been told they have two pretty good QB's returning that throw the ball fairly well. What would be the simpliest but most effective spread package to run? I would like any info on practicing procedures as well as teaching mechanics for the spread. What is the difference between the Tony Franklin, Air Raid, and West Virginia packages? Coach, If the team you are taking over for is an option based team, then the WVU style may be better suited. It is a run heavy spread, as opposed to airraid and tony franklin which are more pass heavy. We are an option team. I had an exceptionally athletic quarterback and we ran some spread for one year. The reason it worked was because we ran many of the same plays, eg. the blocking schemes were the same when we ran IV from under center or from the gun. For whatever it's worth, the piece of advice I would give to you is that sooner or later teams will call your bluff. You had better have an effective pass game. This will require more practice time than installing the gun option schemes. What are you willing to do with your practice time? In my experience, I found that the practice time needed to become a truly effective passing team was too great and my jump on the spread bandwagon was over quickly. But that is only one man's opinion. |
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baler22
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Post by baler22 on Dec 2, 2007 1:53:38 GMT -6
Do whatever offense you will eun in the long run. If you want to run spread in the long term then make the change. The problem you will have taking over a program is I really think from experience that it takes at least 2 years and more like 3 to really build a program in your image. Your first season you will spend half a season just getting the kids to understand how to practice etc. So I think for your success in the long run you should run the offense you will run in the long term.
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tedseay
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Post by tedseay on Dec 2, 2007 5:10:34 GMT -6
I am a Wing - T guy. I do have a plan in place but was looking for possibilities to add some spread to our Wing package. Coach: Here is an excellent Spread Wing-T system from a great coach and a fine Christian gentleman: tinyurl.com/2lmxzm(And yes, it is still possible to use that last phrase without irony.) |
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Post by biggerblue on Dec 3, 2007 19:45:47 GMT -6
in my high school days we ran a simpiler version of the power -t and it worked very effectivley and alot of wing - t packages work very well in HS levels
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