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Post by gdf on Nov 30, 2010 19:43:08 GMT -6
Coaches,
We are currently evaluating our off-season program. We are trying to decide how much we need to require/encourage our kids to do in the off-season without burning them out. In a meeting we got into a discussion about how much championship teams (conference, district, state, etc.) do in the off-season compared to non-championship teams. I'm curious how much time you ask of the kids, and whether you think you've found the balance between putting in the time vs. burning them out.
We are located in Michigan, so we don't have Spring ball as a tool. Currently our off-season program consists of:
Lifting 3 days/week- This is encouraged but not required. We have a lot of multiple sport athletes, which we encourage, so our #'s aren't great in the wt. room right now.
Summer Running- 1 night/week in the summer Months
Summer Throwing- About 1 night/week in July. This is usually against other teams.
Summer FB Camp- A 3-day camp open to all area kids where we start to install O & D.
I know of some teams who throw on Sundays in the gym during the winter, or work with position groups in the summer. Curious to see what others in similar situations do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2010 7:03:39 GMT -6
I would look into 7on7 tournaments during the summer. If not I would try to organize some with the local coaches. 7on7 is not always the most realistic, but it will build experience in both your offense and defense as well as give your players a better understanding of your system. These games also create the competitive edge that you can't always get out of players during practice. Another thing is that you might find playmakers in unknown places. We had a non-athlete that just for some reason turned it on during these competitions, he's now an integral part of our defense.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 1, 2010 7:56:45 GMT -6
Finals are this weekend.
We will take up equipment, clean out the locker room, do inventory, and then immediately reissue lockers to all returning players.
Weight room will be open the following week, and all during the holidays. No attendence will be taken, but will have a good turn out.
Following the Christmas break, we will start our PE class. We will also have the weight room open in the afternoon for any one not in the PE class, as well as bring in the rising 9 graders from the middle schools. We lift 3 days a week. We start keeping attendence following Christmas.
Also during the spring, we will do various team functions for charities, going to churches, lift-a-thon, etc....
We will have mandatory study hall for any players who have less than a C in any class.
We have spring ball in May. We can also work out individually with 2 players at a time during the off season. Usually it is 1 different position coach for each day of the week.
We encourage players to play other sports, and excuse those absenses.
Summer time, we will lift 3 days a week and throw 2 days a weeks. We also do speed training 2 days a week. Our max week usually is around the 1st week in July.
We are allowed to 10 days in the summer for 7-7 competitions and will use all 10 days.
We start the preseason after our coaches clinic which falls on the last week in July. This week is a dead week. We encourage our players to take vacations durig this week.
We expect 80% participation for both spring and summer work outs.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Dec 2, 2010 6:05:34 GMT -6
Find out what the competition is doing, and then make sure you are doing more.
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Post by seagull73 on Dec 2, 2010 6:14:11 GMT -6
Work smarter not longer.
We lift 3 days a week in the spring starting March 1st. If you play another school sport you are excused. It is required that you attend! We only work for an hour but it is a$$ kicking work. There is no music, you can't sit down between sets.
In the summer 30 min of agilities/conditioning is added to the program so the sessions are 90 minutes.
We do 7 on 7 in the summer. If you haven't been at 80% of the workouts to that point you can not participate because we are going to cut you anyway!
Hours in the weight room are counter productive. Organize yourself and run a structured, disciplined program and you will get better results.
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Post by phantom on Dec 2, 2010 9:40:04 GMT -6
We'll start lifting in January after the semester break. The team will lift on M-W-Th for an hour and a half. There's also an extra/makeup day on Tuesday. After b-ball season ends (Yeah, like it EVER ends) we'll add plyos and agilities. Athletes in other sports are excused during their seasons. When school is closed so is the weight room.
In the spring we have our camp in late May. We don't have spring ball in our state but we can have a camp. By then our spring sports teams are mostly done so there's no conflict. We may get together with a couple of other teams for informal 7-on-7s.
In the summer we lift/run M-W-F from 6-8 PM. In past years we've done two big passing tournaments but this year we think we'll just do the informal thing.
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Post by falconattack on Dec 2, 2010 10:58:48 GMT -6
Most kids will only do as much as they are expected to do. That being said, it is not wise to push the envelope to far.
In our State, we are not allowed Spring ball and are not allowed to supervise kids IF there is a football involved. This rule applies until the official last day of school. Once the school year is over, we are allowed to work with footballs, kids, everything...we just can not wear pads or helmets.
I mention this because it sounds like we have similar rules for off-season. We, like many, try to get the most out of our kids without breaking rules, or burning out players. All of our players are encouraged to participate in another sport in the winter and spring. What we do is for anyone NOT on another school team.
This is our schedule:
End of season until after Christmas break --- nothing organized. We have kids that workout on there own (lift, run, throw the ball around, etc)
After Christmas Break (January & February) --- "Winter Off-season Conditioning"
This consists of organized lifting, agilities, and speed work (Heavy focus on lifting)
Early March --- nothing organized. We encourage kids to tryout for other sports.
Mid March (immediately after Spring sport cuts are made) --- "Spring Off-season Conditioning"
Again this consists of organized lifting, agilities, and speed work (Heavy focus on speed
and agilities) We will also begin running through coverages with our defense and pass
routes, patterns and run game timing with our offense (without a ball of course, don't want
to break rules). This continues until two weeks before the end of school giving the kids time
off for finals and time to "be a kid".
First week of June --- Team camp for all levels (Varsity, JV, Soph, Frosh, and Little kids) These
camps are non padded (State rule)
End of Team camp we will take the Varsity and JV to a college contact camp for the weekend.
The next weekend we will take our Soph and Frosh to a college contact camp.
First legal day in June until the last legal day in July ---
6:00 am --- Offense Weights / Defense conditioning
7:00 am --- Defense Weights / Offense conditioning
8:00 am --- Offense and Defense skill session
Every Monday evening in June --- 7 on 7 this is a 8 team league developed by ourselves and
surrounding teams. We meet at one school, play two games against somebody different
each Monday
Also Every Monday evening --- Line Tech. Our offensive and defensive linemen meet at our
school. Get some additional reps in, then go out to eat together. More fun then work.
As I typed this, it seemed like alot. I really think everything we do is important, therefore the kids believe it is important too. We don't "cut" players, however, these winter, spring, and summer activities allows us to determine who is serious about football and who just wants to wear a jersey. Rarely have we been suprised.
As someone else mentioned. Get organized, have a purpose, and kids will see the importance as well. They will either buy in or bale out.
Good luck.
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