coachood
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Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. -Vince Lombardi
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Post by coachood on Oct 28, 2010 8:55:04 GMT -6
www.football-defense.com/run-a-tough-offense-to-toughen-your-defense/This article seems to confirm something that I have long suspected, basically the teams who run a more "smash mouth" type of offense seem to have tougher and harder hitting defenses. I know there will be exceptions but I see the correlation a lot. Am I right or am I just to biased to see that I'm wrong.
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Post by dazzleox on Oct 28, 2010 9:03:09 GMT -6
To use a national example, I wouldn't have questioned the toughness of the Florida Gators defense, despite the fact they didn't run a "smash mouth" offense. In fact, going back to the long forgotten Tebow Era, I guess I'd use them as an example of a team that had a very physical spread offense with big interior linemen and a Fullback style QB getting direct snaps. I'd suggest you could be a tough "spread" team.
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Post by bucksweepdotcom on Oct 28, 2010 9:09:38 GMT -6
I firmly believe team toughness is coaching. We have many very good tough ass football programs with tough football players were I coach, that would get their ass kicked in other situations. Some programs have tough kids when it comes to football but soft kids (sometimes same kids) in other sports.
Toughness comes in many different ways...
I tell my kids being tough is coming to practice for two-a-days in the August heat waking up a 6am when you are dead tired, banged up and sore and less about kicking someones ass outside a movie theater on Saturday night.
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coachood
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Post by coachood on Oct 28, 2010 9:15:10 GMT -6
To use a national example, I wouldn't have questioned the toughness of the Florida Gators defense, despite the fact they didn't run a "smash mouth" offense. In fact, going back to the long forgotten Tebow Era, I guess I'd use them as an example of a team that had a very physical spread offense with big interior linemen and a Fullback style QB getting direct snaps. I'd suggest you could be a tough "spread" team. I don't think the formations have much to do with it, it's more a style of play. What's more smash mouth than a direct snap to the fullback? |
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Post by Yash on Oct 28, 2010 9:18:20 GMT -6
Can someone define toughness for me? Everyone wants "tough" players but what is toughness? I personally believe that toughness is a derivative of discipline. I think that one of the biggest factors in physically tough players is having mentally tough players. Mentally tough players won't give up when the game is on the line. Mentally tough players finish every drill, every rep, every play. I think that a lot of times toughness is a vague undefined term because we aren't exactly sure what to aim for or how to achieve it.
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Post by coachbb on Oct 28, 2010 9:39:53 GMT -6
What legitimacy does this author even have? Where does he coach? Why should you accept his opinion anymore that Pee-Wee Joe hollering from the stands? I'm not trying to run down the author or even discount his article. But how do you even measure "toughness"? Is there some sort of quantitative measure of "toughness"?
I'd rather focus on having a disciplined, fundamentally sound, athletic team. To quote from another thread similar to this- If you want tough players, have them line up and kick each other in the balls during practice.
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Post by Coach Huey on Oct 28, 2010 14:14:12 GMT -6
www.football-defense.com/run-a-tough-offense-to-toughen-your-defense/This article seems to confirm something that I have long suspected, basically the teams who run a more "smash mouth" type of offense seem to have tougher and harder hitting defenses. I know there will be exceptions but I see the correlation a lot. Am I right or am I just to biased to see that I'm wrong. yes, because it is on the internet it is affirmed. especially after you read all of the statistical data within the article that backs up the statement.  ;D the game is about who is tougher anyway, not about stopping your opponent from scoring less than you score. |
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Post by brophy on Oct 28, 2010 14:42:22 GMT -6
So wouldn't the best way to make your defense 'tough' would be to coach with a baseball bat upset your player's heads, right?
You want a 'tough' defense? Just coach fundamentals and don't do anything stupid. Its not rocket surgery.
You ever see a fundamentally sound (tackling, leverage, hustle) that was 'soft'?
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Post by coachcb on Oct 28, 2010 14:53:19 GMT -6
LOL.. The wonders of the modern modes of communication and media. I'm going to post the inverse of the article: it'll be entitled: "Why Kids That Play In Spread Offenses Are P-ssies."  |
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cwood
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Post by cwood on Oct 29, 2010 10:48:29 GMT -6
This stuff drives me crazy. Basically because it hits close to home. I have heard that to many times. I don't believe any of that.
For the reverse could we say that the offense is soft now because the defense switched from a 4 man front to a 3 man front. They took a big strong guy out and put another skinny kid on the field.
No none of it's true. Usually the coach making the excuses is the problem. He isn't coaching anymore he is instead looking for excuses.
Sorry had a little rant.
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Coach H
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Post by Coach H on Oct 29, 2010 11:11:46 GMT -6
Coaches,
Tough:
-Strong or firm in texture but flexible and not brittle
-Characterized by severity or uncompromising determination
-Capable of enduring strain
-Very hard to influence (Stubborn)
-Tough manner
These characterized are all signs that tough people show. However, our experiences past or present lead us all down a tough road. The ones that fight through it are tough. The ones that fold are not.....
Thanks,
Coach H.
P.S. Tough times make tough people.
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