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Post by coachcarp on Oct 25, 2010 21:39:35 GMT -6
Has anyone been through this a few times? I have had this same situation twice so far in my coaching career and both times the team that lost the first game (regardless of score), beat the team they lost to perviously second time through. This week we are playing a team we beat a few weeks ago. I think the natural tendency for the winning team is to keep a similar plan as week one and of course the team that loses ends up making some radical changes whether it is scheme or personnel match-ups. We are making some changes schematically. Just looking for some advice from those who have been through it. Change scheme? Change game plan? Ways to keep players motivated, etc.
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Post by pvogel on Oct 25, 2010 23:59:27 GMT -6
yeah i agree the team that lost tends to have the advantage.
but i would just suggest treating it just as another game.
watch film, learn recent tendencies, etc. their team might have changed a bit since the last time you played them, and you might have too.
and i would stress during the week that the players not be complacent and not overlook the opponent. play the "theyre seeking revenge" card, say they are better, whatever your team will respond to. it may be swagger (we beat them before & sure as hell gonna beat em again, or they keep saying thank you sir may i have another, whatever) that they respond to. if youre playing someone again, i imagine it is in the playoffs so youre doing alright and im sure you know what works for your team.
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Post by phantom on Oct 26, 2010 3:54:13 GMT -6
Has anyone been through this a few times? I have had this same situation twice so far in my coaching career and both times the team that lost the first game (regardless of score), beat the team they lost to perviously second time through. This week we are playing a team we beat a few weeks ago. I think the natural tendency for the winning team is to keep a similar plan as week one and of course the team that loses ends up making some radical changes whether it is scheme or personnel match-ups. We are making some changes schematically. Just looking for some advice from those who have been through it. Change scheme? Change game plan? Ways to keep players motivated, etc. We've had to do this several times. I don't think that making radical changes this time of year is a good idea. Do what you do. Throw in a few wrinkles based on the changes you've seen on film since you played last but I wouldn't do anything wildly different from what you've done all year. Motivation depends on the circumstances. If it's a playoff game or will effect your playoff chances it should be easy. Otherwise use the same motivation as you'd use normally for this game but emphasize what you've told us- that the winner the first time has lost the second in the past. |
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 26, 2010 4:25:37 GMT -6
Playoffs start tonight, and we play a team we played in the regular season. Both of us are 6-2.
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Post by coachjd on Oct 26, 2010 5:16:15 GMT -6
We play our #1 rival tonight in the playoffs. Ranked #1 in AAA in the state of Minnesota. This is our 2nd time playing them for the 3rd year in a row.
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 26, 2010 6:06:54 GMT -6
I have had this happen many times, some where scheduled 2-fors, (close by rival, money game for both teams) and of course replays in the playoffs.
From my experience, it is usually a matter of the team that has continued to improve the most over the course of the season, is the one that wins the second round.
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Post by Coach.A on Oct 26, 2010 9:57:09 GMT -6
We play a team for the third time this season on Saturday. We won the first time in overtime, the second time we won on a touchdown with 30 seconds left.
We're going to continue to run our base stuff, BUT out of some different formations and we added a counter and a reverse off of a play we had a lot of succes with against them.
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Post by coachbw on Oct 26, 2010 9:57:36 GMT -6
I have had to do this a number of times. In fact, I we have had to play the same team with less than a week turn around a couple of times (end of regular season, first week of playoffs). The only thing that I change is that I don't scout as much. Instead of running a self scout from the whole season, I run it just from the game against them. Instead of watching every game I have of them, I just watch their previous game and their game against us and base everything off of that. One piece of advice I have is that you may want to give some consideration to how they will adjust their prior game plan based on what worked well for you.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 26, 2010 20:06:41 GMT -6
We play a team for the third time this season on Saturday. Too far to travel to get other well-matched opponents? |
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Post by Coach.A on Oct 26, 2010 22:01:53 GMT -6
We play a team for the third time this season on Saturday. Too far to travel to get other well-matched opponents? We have 5 local high schools and we use an unbalanced schedule. You play two of the local teams twice. One of the teams that we played twice, we are now seeing in the playoffs. The next closest city with football is a 3 hour drive. I guess it seems strange to most, but it's normal here because we've been using a system like this for awhile. |
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Post by dacoachmo on Oct 27, 2010 5:18:27 GMT -6
but i would just suggest treating it just as another game. watch film, learn recent tendencies, etc. their team might have changed a bit since the last time you played them, and you might have too. BINGO! ID the most efficient play(s) and see what the other team could do to stop them. |
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