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Post by hchscoachtom on Oct 19, 2006 10:49:18 GMT -6
Just read another post which made we wonder about bringing up players to the next level of play. ie 9th grader to JV, JV player to varsity. What criteria do you use to determine this? Is it numbers of players needed? Is it quality of athlete? What about bringing Varsity players down to JV (11th graders to JV)? Just wondering what others do and think about this issue. Thanks for your reply.
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Post by coachcalande on Oct 19, 2006 11:01:36 GMT -6
bring them up if they can contribute now, otherwise let them play where they are. winning is important at every level...ask the kids. one thing that is often overlooked is the fear factor. a kid might have the build to play at the next level but hes not mentally tough and ready and willing to leave his friends behind as well. once in awhile there are some great kids that can move up and start on jv as a frosh or even help the varsity...but i have seen over adn over again the failings of moving kids too fast. not only have i seen serious injuries or scarred egos, but i have seen the lower level teams struggle to be competetive which leads to "im not playing next year" comments from other kids. joe paterno put it best "one year too late is better than one day too early"
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Post by hoptions on Oct 19, 2006 11:12:10 GMT -6
We are not allowed to send players down to the JV no matter what. But we are firm believers in moving players up if and only if they are the best. If he is not the best there is no reason to move him up. Also we never ever move a kid up to sit the bench. If an athlete gets moved up it is because he is the best and he will most likely be out there all most every play on onside of the ball or another and on some special teams.
There are three criteria we use when moving a freshman or sophomore up: 1) Is he physically mature enough? 2) Is he mentally mature enough? 3) Is he the best at that position?
With that being said...3 years ago we moved a sophomore to play QB for us in a newly installed veer system because of those three criteria. Then last year we moved up 8 sophomores; 5 offensive starters, 3 defensive starters, and all but 3 played on every special team except FG/PAT, and that is were those 3 played since they were lineman.
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Post by fbdoc on Oct 20, 2006 8:31:43 GMT -6
We are a smaller high school (250 kids, 28 on varsity + 42 8th and 9th graders on JV) so our personnel issues change from year to year. We're going to put our "best " kids on the varsity. If the kid can play for us, he's going to be up with the varsity. We'll usually have a couple of swing kids who play both varsity and so they can accelerate their learning curve. Our JV's jsut finished their season while the varsity has 3 more games and we are moving three 9th graders up, 2 backs and 1 lineman, to finish the season with us. They will all get some quality snaps on special teams and possible on O and D in at least 2 of the 3 remaining games. They are each likely starters/players next year so this gives them a little bit of a head start before we have Spring Football.
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Post by brophy on Oct 20, 2006 8:40:06 GMT -6
1) The kid and his parents are okay with it.
2) The kid's body frame is mature and and is anticipated to hit an above average growth spurt (I can't put this in words....but there are those 13 year olds that you just KNOW are marked to be 6'4" 225 as Seniors)
3) There is a NEED for him to be on Varsity (if you bring a kid up, he'd BETTER start!)
4) (not so important) He is dominating his current environment.
JV games.....
ALL Seniors and Juniors who aren't seeing playing time on Fridays
ANY Sophomore role players who could use the experience.
ANY Freshmen who show potential to be great Varsity players.
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Post by newhc on Nov 6, 2006 11:36:51 GMT -6
I just had a bad experience with that. We have a good who is the best RB we have on JV, and since we run the spread, he looked a great slot for us. He was very elusive with the ball in his hands. I wanted to use the kid on scenes, kick-off returns and punt returns. He spent one week up with us, and he sucked. Attutide wise, and plus his mother wanted to see him shine, so she had a problem with only getting him 2 - 3 touches a quarter. I personally believe that kids should look forward to playing on varsity, but was my view way wrong.
Based upon what you guys said above, and I agree with what said above, I should have followed it. I didn't really ask the kid, and the parent. That was a big mistake, and I really see that now. I just thought it was the best for him and us, but I was wrong.
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