merkel
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Post by merkel on Sept 6, 2010 12:05:31 GMT -6
I am an assistant Head Coach. We have 6 other assistants. They try their best but they have not taught the kids what they were supposed to be teaching.My beleif is you have to teach the kids by a plan in a certin way so that they learn those skills such as fit and freeze. the assistants have to actually understand what it is you are trying to teach and beleive it can work.Our head coach first season as a head coach coached 7th and 8th grade for 2 years played D1. Has anyone out there ever realized how hard it can be to run a team of 32 kids by yourself, try to win deal w parents and fundraise all at the same time? We have assistants who are Dads with o real football experiance let alone clinic or trying to be a better coach through books or internet. Head coaches cant do it alone. The Head Coach and I spent 6 winter months of planning and now that the season is here he is gone the complete opposite direction of our plan. I guess my point is without assistant coaches to help share the vision there is no vision.
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Post by tiger46 on Sept 8, 2010 2:36:51 GMT -6
Coach, If any one of the other much-more-wise-than-I-am coaches were to chime in, I'm sure that they'd give you pretty much the same advice: You've got to coach up your coaches.
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Post by daveinsarasota on Sept 8, 2010 10:14:50 GMT -6
True...it is a head coaches repsonsiblity to convey his plan to all of his assistants, and to make sure all bases are covered WELL BEFORE the season.
If the plan is not going according to what was originally envisioned, that is the fault of the head coach. He owns it. Assistants can be brutal, especially if you show a degree of uncertainty in your plan...but if they are inexpereinced coaches, they are [probably looking for guidance, just as your players are.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but you seem to be putting this on your assistants, and I do not think that is fair.
As for how hard it is to run a team... My roster is small this year...I only have 23 players...but the organziation that I coach for, is so ate up, that I have to coach, direct other coaches, fundraise, be a chauffer, announce games that I am not coaching, set up the field, stock the concession stand, coordinate the janitorial services...and a lot of other crazy things that you couldn't even imagine...
I barely have enough time for coaching...
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merkel
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Post by merkel on Sept 12, 2010 14:58:40 GMT -6
absolutely true..what is the best way to help coach up these coaches..we are trying to get them to go to clinics with us next year and hopefully they will stick with us to want to get better. My point is without them are jobs would be near impossible .Without their help, but for them to teach scheme and technique the way it must be taught is the issue because they just dont know how to teach. It has taken me many clinics and books just to be serviceable to coach.
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Post by daveinsarasota on Sept 14, 2010 9:49:58 GMT -6
absolutely true..what is the best way to help coach up these coaches..we are trying to get them to go to clinics with us next year and hopefully they will stick with us to want to get better. My point is without them are jobs would be near impossible .Without their help, but for them to teach scheme and technique the way it must be taught is the issue because they just dont know how to teach. It has taken me many clinics and books just to be serviceable to coach. Well...the way I handle it is to take each guy, and depending on what he is coaching, have one on one sessions with him showing him what drills you want taught, and how you want them taught. Have a real dialog. Encourage questions, and be able to answer every question. Be confident about what you are converying to him...show him the drills, show him the coaching points...then have him show YOU the drills, and have him tell YOU the coaching points. Make him a subject area expert in whatever it is you want him to do. This will take a significant amount of time and effort on your part. But you will need to coach them up individually, and not as a group. You will miss too many critical things.
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merkel
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Post by merkel on Sept 18, 2010 14:05:13 GMT -6
thanks for your help fellas.
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Post by mhcoach on Sept 24, 2010 7:10:18 GMT -6
Merkel
Last season I had 4 very green assit coaches. I schooled them up from Feb - June, meeting at least 1 night a week. Once they learned my scheme's That doesn't mean they are ready to coach the drills. Most youth coaches don't understand how to run high pace, multiple rep, efficient drills. That is where the real coaching the coaches happens. I would make sure each coach could run my drills the way I wanted before I left anyone on their own. I am fortunate I have Pasco Paul as my Oline coach, that allows me to concentrate on the other coaches. You need to structure your practices so YOU can spend time going from drill to drill.
Hope that Helps!
Joe
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Post by davecisar on Sept 24, 2010 7:30:24 GMT -6
Merkel Last season I had 4 very green assit coaches. I schooled them up from Feb - June, meeting at least 1 night a week. Once they learned my scheme's That doesn't mean they are ready to coach the drills. Most youth coaches don't understand how to run high pace, multiple rep, efficient drills. That is where the real coaching the coaches happens. I would make sure each coach could run my drills the way I wanted before I left anyone on their own. I am fortunate I have Pasco Paul as my Oline coach, that allows me to concentrate on the other coaches. You need to structure your practices so YOU can spend time going from drill to drill. Hope that Helps! Joe MH Coach- VERY TRUE A good coach can get 2x-3X-4x- 5x more done than a poor coach, just by pace- and drill design Im not talking about rushing through- quality super high standard reps We practice less than 1/2 as much as most of the teams we play- refuse to waste time- super intense pace Ive done 70+ private team clinics- we NEVER see coaches approaching anywhere near the pace that is possible- what we do in our practices- They are shocked at the pace I push- and even that pace is MUCH slower than what I require of my own kids/coaches Coaches kind of freak a little that first week- you have to push the pace- they dont realize when we say 1 rep every 6 secs, thats what we mean= if you arent sweating during our practices- you arent coaching well
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Post by dania on Sept 24, 2010 8:44:15 GMT -6
Merkel Last season I had 4 very green assit coaches. I schooled them up from Feb - June, meeting at least 1 night a week. Once they learned my scheme's That doesn't mean they are ready to coach the drills. Most youth coaches don't understand how to run high pace, multiple rep, efficient drills. That is where the real coaching the coaches happens. I would make sure each coach could run my drills the way I wanted before I left anyone on their own. I am fortunate I have Pasco Paul as my Oline coach, that allows me to concentrate on the other coaches. You need to structure your practices so YOU can spend time going from drill to drill. Hope that Helps! Joe MH Coach- VERY TRUE A good coach can get 2x-3X-4x- 5x more done than a poor coach, just by pace- and drill design Im not talking about rushing through- quality super high standard reps We practice less than 1/2 as much as most of the teams we play- refuse to waste time- super intense pace Ive done 70+ private team clinics- we NEVER see coaches approaching anywhere near the pace that is possible- what we do in our practices- They are shocked at the pace I push- and even that pace is MUCH slower than what I require of my own kids/coaches Coaches kind of freak a little that first week- you have to push the pace- they dont realize when we say 1 rep every 6 secs, thats what we mean= if you arent sweating during our practices- you arent coaching well for those interested, welcome to big time coaching.
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Post by mhcoach on Sept 24, 2010 9:20:45 GMT -6
DC & Dania
That is really the key to being successfull. DC I know from your posts how much you stress this, that's why I say we are twin brothers with different mothers. Often I think youth coaches lose sight of what a drill is trying to accomplish. If the drill is to work on first step, then work first step not 4 steps. On nights we have a good practice Pasco Paul & I are drenched in sweat & tired. The funny thing is the kids usually enjoy a high paced practice too. They don't get bored & really get to understand what they need to do.
Joe
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 24, 2010 18:26:34 GMT -6
This is a difference between me & the rest of my staff -- and that of the other teams in the organiz'n. Instead of progression, they work sort of backwards, starting with vague instructions that seem to assume the kids know how to play football, and then they rep, stop, and talk. We tend to run drills that keep players waiting in line, series rather than parallel drills, and they rep, then tell them what they did wrong. Takes forever.
When I get a chance I get all the players either repping or assisting at once, and it's rapid reps with only occasional stops to talk. When the kids dawdle, it's amazing how well they respond to my pretending to be a back judge, yelling "3 seconds" or whatever and pumping my arm; works a lot better than just telling them to hurry. And I arrange things to be able to rep in rapid succession. Do I see every player's form every rep? Of course not, I don't have 10 eyes -- although there are some thiings you can watch every player in line at once for, like who's stepping vs. standing. But even though I can't bird dog every player every rep, I think the players get the feel of things when they rep rapidly. Many times they should be able themselves to tell what they did wrong on a rep.
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Post by 19delta on Sept 26, 2010 13:46:58 GMT -6
Coaches kind of freak a little that first week- you have to push the pace- they dont realize when we say 1 rep every 6 secs, thats what we mean= if you arent sweating during our practices- you arent coaching well This was my first year coaching youth ball. We only had 2 practices a week (90 minutes for an offensive practice on Monday and 90 minutes for a defensive practice/pre-game practice on Wednesday. Games were on Thursday). Coming from the high school ranks, only having 3 hours of practice a week really forced me to make every single second count. Often, less IS more.
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Post by jaspercoach on Sept 26, 2010 13:47:15 GMT -6
This is a difference between me & the rest of my staff -- and that of the other teams in the organiz'n. Instead of progression, they work sort of backwards, starting with vague instructions that seem to assume the kids know how to play football, and then they rep, stop, and talk. We tend to run drills that keep players waiting in line, series rather than parallel drills, and they rep, then tell them what they did wrong. Takes forever. When I get a chance I get all the players either repping or assisting at once, and it's rapid reps with only occasional stops to talk. When the kids dawdle, it's amazing how well they respond to my pretending to be a back judge, yelling "3 seconds" or whatever and pumping my arm; works a lot better than just telling them to hurry. And I arrange things to be able to rep in rapid succession. Do I see every player's form every rep? Of course not, I don't have 10 eyes -- although there are some thiings you can watch every player in line at once for, like who's stepping vs. standing. But even though I can't bird dog every player every rep, I think the players get the feel of things when they rep rapidly. Many times they should be able themselves to tell what they did wrong on a rep. Caoch, can you post one of your practice plans or scripts?
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 26, 2010 16:57:49 GMT -6
This is a difference between me & the rest of my staff -- and that of the other teams in the organiz'n. Instead of progression, they work sort of backwards, starting with vague instructions that seem to assume the kids know how to play football, and then they rep, stop, and talk. We tend to run drills that keep players waiting in line, series rather than parallel drills, and they rep, then tell them what they did wrong. Takes forever. When I get a chance I get all the players either repping or assisting at once, and it's rapid reps with only occasional stops to talk. When the kids dawdle, it's amazing how well they respond to my pretending to be a back judge, yelling "3 seconds" or whatever and pumping my arm; works a lot better than just telling them to hurry. And I arrange things to be able to rep in rapid succession. Do I see every player's form every rep? Of course not, I don't have 10 eyes -- although there are some thiings you can watch every player in line at once for, like who's stepping vs. standing. But even though I can't bird dog every player every rep, I think the players get the feel of things when they rep rapidly. Many times they should be able themselves to tell what they did wrong on a rep. Coach, can you post one of your practice plans or scripts? I could show you the outline I used for the one session I was in charge of, an optional practice session that I didn't know who would show up for. All of it was a list of things to work on, time permitting, arranged in priorities -- taking as long as necessary with each until time ran out. I started with what was intended to be a sumo tourney, but the odd number of players changed the format. However, I can describe a couple of things I did to make things move faster. With no chute (Parks Dept. having lost ours), I group the players in 3s -- one to block, one to resist, and the 3rd to form a low bridge with hir arm across their path, rotating the roles when I'm satisfied. Each group executes in parallel along the same lines of scrimmage on my signal. Knowing we wanted to get one player a bunch of reps as snapper, I arranged a 3rd player to hand the ball back to him after each rep, and I was the one taking tossed snaps. For hand to hand snaps, I just had the QB keep handing him the ball back immediately the same way he got it. Lots of reps in very little time, which is good because it's one of the few times everyone else had to be standing around. I think for "feel" things like that, lots of rapid reps are very helpful.
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