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Post by outlawzheadcoach on Mar 6, 2006 0:33:12 GMT -6
DW and Wing-T coaches,
What are the major differences in the 2 systems, such as blocking and those types of things? In our league there are some guys calling and thinking our system is a WT system when in fact it is a DW system. I would just like to know some of the MAJOR differences in the 2 and degree of difficulty in teaching one VS the other.
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 6, 2006 3:47:53 GMT -6
splits, depth of fb, qb blocking, double teams, number of pullers, base plays, number of formations. blocking schemes and rules. placement of personnel.
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Post by knighter on Mar 6, 2006 6:30:32 GMT -6
Also depends on the "flavor" of DW you run.
The Wyatt system I use is a little more wing t/old style run and shoot based.
Most others are Markhamesque based (see Calande I used proper terminology)
If you see anything bigger than a 6" split in between the OL it is not true DW.
DW = tight splits, many guys to the POA and the off tackle power 100% true.
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 6, 2006 7:34:51 GMT -6
The dw coach seeks to take ground by force. Its not "take what they give you" its "take what you want" (evil maniachal laugh) BWWAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAA!
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Post by outlawzheadcoach on Mar 6, 2006 9:11:58 GMT -6
How much more difficult is it to teach to say younger V older players?
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 6, 2006 9:13:11 GMT -6
same system for all ages if you have the coaches trained. I have guys running my GOOD GOD system to the letter with ages 8 to semi pro.
teaching involves walk before you run of course, chalk it, talk it, walk it, run it , rep it. constantly. keep the playbook managable and no matter what age group, start with teh fantastic five.
wedge
power
sweep
counter
trap.
perfect those before adding anything else.
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Post by outlawzheadcoach on Mar 6, 2006 11:22:40 GMT -6
What is the "GOOD GOD" system?
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Post by brophy on Mar 6, 2006 11:49:32 GMT -6
Wing T = Transformers
Double Wing = GoBots
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 6, 2006 12:04:44 GMT -6
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Post by gmccown on Mar 6, 2006 14:01:22 GMT -6
Quick short version.
Wyatt Playside Rules:
1- GAP- Block a man in your inside gap
2- ON- Block a man Head up on you
3- AREA- Take a jab step with the playside foot and read it on the run. Looking for any threat to the first two rule "areas" and the progressing to backer.
TE's rule
1-Gap
2-On
3-Read Up- Fire off stepping toward the nearest down defender looking for a down block. IF you can't get to him progress up to the first backer inside.
In my understanding.
GOOD- Gap, On, outside shoulder, down.
The key difference is that Calande will have a lineman take a shade on his outside shoulder, Wyatt guys normally consider that GAP and block down on him. And by my understanding of the rules (not totally fluent in Calande's rules, but we have discussed them) his playside guys don't read up to a backer.
GOD- GAP, ON, DOWN...pretty self explanitory.
Note that on some plays our "Area" becomes "Down" Example we double a 4 tech with the Tackle (ON) and the TE ( Area ) as a automatic double because that man could threaten the TE's inside Gap rule.
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Post by gmccown on Mar 6, 2006 14:03:34 GMT -6
There is also SAB blocking...but I really don't know a lot about that.
Double wing is double wing...but just like everything else out there coaches have their own twist and turns to the system.
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 6, 2006 17:41:04 GMT -6
good and gdb (gap down backer) go together to put the double team where its needed without a line call. thats the idea. good stands for gap/on/outside gap/down and inside our good man we g.o.d block. read the thread on my forum for a very good intro to the system.
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Post by coachdawhip on Mar 6, 2006 22:22:47 GMT -6
CoachCalande,
Pretty much said it all. We have wider splits, depth of the fb and blocking schemes and rules being the main difference.
Now as a Wing-T coach will I line up in a Double Wing, Double TE formation, you betcha, but it would still be our type of plays.
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Post by piquaindian on Mar 12, 2006 9:15:54 GMT -6
same system for all ages if you have the coaches trained. I have guys running my GOOD GOD system to the letter with ages 8 to semi pro. teaching involves walk before you run of course, chalk it, talk it, walk it, run it , rep it. constantly. keep the playbook managable and no matter what age group, start with teh fantastic five. wedge power sweep counter trap. perfect those before adding anything else. I'm looking at running a wing offense this year for our youth football team. It's a 6 team league within the city and we haven't done very well in a number of years. I figure we might as well try it, it can't hurt. Where can I find a pretty easy playbook with those 5 plays in it? Thanks! |
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 13, 2006 13:40:22 GMT -6
www.doublewingonline.com has some playbooks...but its much better to get an experienced coach to mentor you thru the process of running the dw for the first time. there are alot of great coaches you can meet thru the links on my site or the dw forum on dwo.
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