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Post by fbdoc on Jan 2, 2008 21:27:02 GMT -6
Ok, how many of you predicted West Virginia would be leading the Sooners at halftime?
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Post by amikell on Jan 2, 2008 21:34:07 GMT -6
well, i predicted them to win. does that count?
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 2, 2008 21:38:03 GMT -6
What is worse--from a macro level perspective involving college football / us coaches is.... Does anybody really care? I will be shocked if this game, and the KU VT games have any type of ratings what so ever.
Is this good for the game of football as a whole to trickle out the BCS games that don't seem to carry much significance to people other than the gamblers or fans of the schools?
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Post by fbdoc on Jan 2, 2008 21:41:34 GMT -6
I like spreading them out - from the fan perspective. Instead of 6 each on Dec. 31 and Jan 1, give me 2 or 3 a day for a week or so. Much better viewing. And by the way, I also picked WVU to win!
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 2, 2008 21:45:16 GMT -6
doc--I understand that concept, and for FOOTBALL guys, it is good. I wonder though, if the mainstream public feels the same way (and ratings reflect this)
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Post by theprez98 on Jan 2, 2008 21:50:59 GMT -6
Best comment of the bowl season so far:
camera shows #93 BERRY (left) and #92 DINGLE (right) sitting next to each other.
"They should not let those two sit together on the bench...or at least make them sit in that order!"
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Post by Yash on Jan 2, 2008 21:52:36 GMT -6
Yeah that was quite the comment. I chuckled.
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Post by Yash on Jan 2, 2008 21:55:05 GMT -6
This game reminds me quite a bit of last year vs Boise State. OU is favored pretty good, falls behind in the first half. Makes a comeback in the second half. Now if the ending can only live up to last years game wouldn't that be nice.
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Post by theprez98 on Jan 2, 2008 21:56:29 GMT -6
From a coaching perspective, why is it "too early" (according to the announcers) to go for 2 when the score is 20-15 midway through the 3rd quarter?
I understand the concept of chasing points, but in this case, the XP gets you absolutely nothing, so why not go for 2? To me, "if we get a touchdown, we'll only be up by 2 instead of 3" is not even a valid consideration.
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Post by kkennedy on Jan 2, 2008 22:21:41 GMT -6
From a coaching perspective, why is it "too early" (according to the announcers) to go for 2 when the score is 20-15 midway through the 3rd quarter? I understand the concept of chasing points, but in this case, the XP gets you absolutely nothing, so why not go for 2? To me, "if we get a touchdown, we'll only be up by 2 instead of 3" is not even a valid consideration. I agree and was thinking the same thing at 20-15 kicking a p.a.t. only brings you within 4, you still need a t.d. to take a lead. If you go for 2 and get it though NOW you can tie the game with a fg. I would have done the same thing. |
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Post by bearcat4life on Jan 2, 2008 22:25:31 GMT -6
It's a wrap!
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Post by theprez98 on Jan 2, 2008 22:29:24 GMT -6
It does not seem to matter anymore unless OK's defense actually stops WV!
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Post by Yash on Jan 2, 2008 22:36:18 GMT -6
WVU can't even milk the clock because they score so quickly.
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Post by beatdown on Jan 2, 2008 22:38:55 GMT -6
Has anyone seen two 30 yard penalties in a game before???
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Post by Yash on Jan 2, 2008 22:42:35 GMT -6
Noel Devine just wow, He has a gear that I haven't seen before. There is fast and then there is whatever you all the speed he runs at. Wow.
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Post by amikell on Jan 2, 2008 22:42:54 GMT -6
does anyone play defense anymore? good grief.  |
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Post by coachorr on Jan 2, 2008 22:52:08 GMT -6
Who do you defend? WVU is like a four back offense. I think there is a lot of talent on the field between both teams.
Coach 5085, do you think ratings would improve if there was a playoff system that was carried out over a period of about a month?
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Post by coachorr on Jan 2, 2008 22:55:46 GMT -6
Wait, I was watching the game on DVR, I am starting to see what you are saying amikell.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 2, 2008 23:08:26 GMT -6
From a coaching perspective, why is it "too early" (according to the announcers) to go for 2 when the score is 20-15 midway through the 3rd quarter? I understand the concept of chasing points, but in this case, the XP gets you absolutely nothing, so why not go for 2? To me, "if we get a touchdown, we'll only be up by 2 instead of 3" is not even a valid consideration. I agree and was thinking the same thing at 20-15 kicking a p.a.t. only brings you within 4, you still need a t.d. to take a lead. If you go for 2 and get it though NOW you can tie the game with a fg. I would have done the same thing. Unless i was struggling to score I would never go for two unless it's the 4th quarter. |
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 2, 2008 23:09:18 GMT -6
Noel Devine just wow, He has a gear that I haven't seen before. There is fast and then there is whatever you all the speed he runs at. Wow. Search Noel Divine on youtube.....Unbleivable HS clips. |
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Post by Yash on Jan 2, 2008 23:12:03 GMT -6
Oh I've seen the Noel Devine clips on the net, those are against high school kids though. This is against OU. Its not intramurals, its the Big 12!!!!
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Post by theprez98 on Jan 2, 2008 23:13:30 GMT -6
How's that for a job interview?!
Does Bill Stewart now get serious consideration for the job? From a coaching perspective, the players definitely rallied around him, and were chanting his name as they carried him off the field.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 2, 2008 23:16:14 GMT -6
Oh I've seen the Noel Devine clips on the net, those are against high school kids though. This is against OU. Its not intramurals, its the Big 12!!!! Don't forget he was a high school kid at the time. |
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Post by cmow5 on Jan 2, 2008 23:20:03 GMT -6
I came into the game cheering for Oklahoma because I picked them to win. By the end of the game I was cheering for WV for one reason Coach Stewart. And then Owen losing it at the end. I am really happy WV. Make this man the HC now!!!! Even stoops said to the WV AD make him the HC.
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Post by CVBears on Jan 2, 2008 23:28:29 GMT -6
what was the comment the big fullback from WV made about 1.3 million? I didn't catch it
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Post by cmow5 on Jan 2, 2008 23:31:12 GMT -6
what was the comment the big fullback from WV made about 1.3 million? I didn't catch it I think he was talking about the trophy they get for the win. I guess it has a value of 1.3. I would take 50 kids with his attitude. Eating coasters, banging your head and he started as a walkon. Just dont have him punt no more. |
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Post by dubber on Jan 2, 2008 23:38:33 GMT -6
Here's the beauty:
How many WVU offensive players are first round draft picks?
185 lbs. Steve Slaton? maaaaaaaaaybe (argument could be made------see: Warrick Dunn------but imo, no)
Pat White as a QB? no
as a WR? 3rd round
Schmitt? again, lower rounds
Devine? weighs less than Slaton
Sure is heck isn't any of their OL or WR
Now, how many OU players are first rounders?
Correct answer: a ton
We talk a ton about "equalizer" offenses.........there is no doubt WVU has amazing athletes, but they do not have "NFL-type" athletes-------they have found one way (AMONG MANY) to make a bunch of squirrels competitive against a bunch of studs.
My point: you get great "college athletes" for 4 years as opposed to great "NFL athletes" for two years (plus a redshirt)
Case in point: Tim Tebow.......he will be scoring 50+ TD's for two more seasons, while Darren McFadden (NFL prospect) is likely bolting, forgoing his final year.
Maybe the best way to run a college program is to use the "great-athlete-with-one-defect" athletes that stay four years...........like WVU does, Flordia to an extent, and I'm sure Paul Johnson will at GT.
Just a thought about tonight
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 2, 2008 23:46:29 GMT -6
Here's the beauty: How many WVU offensive players are first round draft picks? 185 lbs. Steve Slaton? maaaaaaaaaybe (argument could be made------see: Warrick Dunn------but imo, no) Pat White as a QB? no as a WR? 3rd round Schmitt? again, lower rounds Devine? weighs less than Slaton Sure is heck isn't any of their OL or WR Now, how many OU players are first rounders? Correct answer: a ton We talk a ton about "equalizer" offenses.........there is no doubt WVU has amazing athletes, but they do not have "NFL-type" athletes-------they have found one way (AMONG MANY) to make a bunch of squirrels competitive against a bunch of studs. My point: you get great "college athletes" for 4 years as opposed to great "NFL athletes" for two years (plus a redshirt) Case in point: Tim Tebow.......he will be scoring 50+ TD's for two more seasons, while Darren McFadden (NFL prospect) is likely bolting, forgoing his final year. Maybe the best way to run a college program is to use the "great-athlete-with-one-defect" athletes that stay four years...........like WVU does, Flordia to an extent, and I'm sure Paul Johnson will at GT. Just a thought about tonight \ I agree with you totally except for the Slaton part. I hope he stays another year but he is easily top 5 RB in the draft if he left. That would be the only reason he would go. If he's a first rounder. You never know about Divine either in 2 or 3 years. Could be another reggie bush. He's only like 19 years old. |
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Post by Yash on Jan 3, 2008 0:22:12 GMT -6
I love Owen Schmitt. He played at Wisconsin River Falls his freshman year and ran for over 1000 yards in their at the time, flexbone/wishbone offense. The coach tells him that hes bigger than River Falls so he hooks him up with WVU. On TV they said that the coach made him sit out of practice because he was hurting his other players. I thought they were stretching the truth so I called my roommate whose dad is the coach at River Falls. He said that his freshman year one of the first practices, Owen was killing one of his seniors so he had to pull owen out so the dude didn't get hurt. I tell you what, this guy can play on sundays. If Green Bay can turn a Linebacker from Boise State into a starting fullback, the NFL has a place for Owen Schmitt.
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Post by cmow5 on Jan 3, 2008 0:32:20 GMT -6
I love this kid. Man I hope he gets a shot in the NFL. I love him as a punter.lol The emotion he had at the end of the game was great. shoot I got a little choked up for the kid.
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