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Post by Yash on Sept 30, 2007 18:23:15 GMT -6
Question for you guys. How do you go about working on finishing a game? Is it something you can practice? In the past 2 games we have given up 2 touchdown 4th quarter leads. We are a good team but need to slam the door shut. What causes a team not to finish? We don't seem fatigued. Its never one specific player. I'm talking college ball, not high school, so kids aren't going both ways. Just something we were trying to put our finger on so maybe you guys can throw some ideas out there on what you think the problem is.
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Post by tedseay on Oct 2, 2007 4:32:57 GMT -6
Question for you guys. How do you go about working on finishing a game? Do you have a run game that you can count on for 3.33 yards a pop? If so, go to it, and burn as much clock as you can on every snap. You don't have to go into a conservative shell -- you're allowed to run misdirection. Just keep the clock ticking over and the chains moving. Challenge your offense to score some more within the above parameters. |
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Post by Yash on Oct 2, 2007 8:42:20 GMT -6
Thats the thing, we have a great run game, averaging around 170 a game or so, we don't even get conservative in play calling. We just haven't finished well. This weekend it cost us the game. The game before that it cost us overtime, but we won in overtime, although it should have been an easy finish in regulation. There is no easy solution. The obvious one is run out the clock, but is there any outside of the box thinking on this?
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 2, 2007 15:27:44 GMT -6
Not to get to pyschological and all, but it sounds like the team (coaches and kids) are "hoping to win" rather than "beating their opponent.
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Post by eickst on Oct 2, 2007 16:24:06 GMT -6
Maybe the other team is making adjustments to try to win the game?
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Post by larrymoe on Oct 2, 2007 18:06:00 GMT -6
I would investigate your conditioning. In my experience it's every bit about that as it is psychologically. If they're strong enough to finish they will. I've beaten several teams late, just because I was in better shape then them.
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Post by phantom on Oct 2, 2007 18:09:42 GMT -6
Question for you guys. How do you go about working on finishing a game? Is it something you can practice? In the past 2 games we have given up 2 touchdown 4th quarter leads. We are a good team but need to slam the door shut. What causes a team not to finish? We don't seem fatigued. Its never one specific player. I'm talking college ball, not high school, so kids aren't going both ways. Just something we were trying to put our finger on so maybe you guys can throw some ideas out there on what you think the problem is. What kind of offense do you run? Do you have the ability to run the ball and take time off of the clock? |
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Post by dubber on Oct 2, 2007 18:40:07 GMT -6
maybe being too conservative is the problem.......
Are you guys running prevent D, and bleeding slowly?
Are you running too much, even against 9 in the box?
In short, have you gotten away from what gave you that lead in the first place?
What are you philosphies and systems on O and D?
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Post by Yash on Oct 2, 2007 19:31:06 GMT -6
Its not a hoping to win thing because we are a successful program and its not a lack of confidence. conditioning, we are in pretty good shape. We run the ball real well, it just seems like we don't convert late in games. This last game we had some key turnovers late that put our defense in bad spots. We are a very physical team so its not a lack of physicality. I think last game it might have been just some bad bounces late that cost us. They might be adjusting. Its not a prevent defense that is beating us. In the case of 2 games ago when we gave up a TD late to force overtime, it was a prevent thing, and our safety used bad technique and missed the guy by a step. This week, it was bad field position caused by turnovers. We might have been asking our LB's to do too much which got them out of position on crossing routes and what not. We have simplified that a bit. So we'll see. I thank you all for the input though.
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Post by phantom on Oct 2, 2007 19:38:37 GMT -6
Its not a hoping to win thing because we are a successful program and its not a lack of confidence. conditioning, we are in pretty good shape. We run the ball real well, it just seems like we don't convert late in games. This last game we had some key turnovers late that put our defense in bad spots. We are a very physical team so its not a lack of physicality. I think last game it might have been just some bad bounces late that cost us. They might be adjusting. Its not a prevent defense that is beating us. In the case of 2 games ago when we gave up a TD late to force overtime, it was a prevent thing, and our safety used bad technique and missed the guy by a step. This week, it was bad field position caused by turnovers. We might have been asking our LB's to do too much which got them out of position on crossing routes and what not. We have simplified that a bit. So we'll see. I thank you all for the input though. So a lot of it is luck. Luck is an element. Accept the fact and move on. |
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Post by midlineqb on Oct 2, 2007 21:28:40 GMT -6
Sounds to me like the team is playing to keep from losing rather playing to win. I don't have a solution for that. Our team is doing that from the get go. Anyone have a solutions or advise.
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Post by dubber on Oct 2, 2007 21:55:30 GMT -6
Its not a hoping to win thing because we are a successful program and its not a lack of confidence. conditioning, we are in pretty good shape. We run the ball real well, it just seems like we don't convert late in games. This last game we had some key turnovers late that put our defense in bad spots. We are a very physical team so its not a lack of physicality. I think last game it might have been just some bad bounces late that cost us. They might be adjusting. Its not a prevent defense that is beating us. In the case of 2 games ago when we gave up a TD late to force overtime, it was a prevent thing, and our safety used bad technique and missed the guy by a step. This week, it was bad field position caused by turnovers. We might have been asking our LB's to do too much which got them out of position on crossing routes and what not. We have simplified that a bit. So we'll see. I thank you all for the input though. Biggest thing it to get them to move on and get back to expecting to win Are these collaspes affecting team mojo? There's the biggest challenge; get them in the right frame of mind. Otherwise, take phantom's advice |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 3, 2007 8:01:52 GMT -6
Thats the thing, we have a great run game, averaging around 170 a game or so, we don't even get conservative in play calling. Not trying to be a smart A, but maybe you do need to get conservative in your playcalling. I would say that there are times when you have to keep playing normal or aggressive to win, but I really think that most of the time to finish you need to go conservative. Again, I didn't say everytime. |
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