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Post by dacoachmo on Jul 5, 2010 17:03:23 GMT -6
My wife and I are thinking of teaching overseas...why? Our son is 4. we are young enough. I am intrigued by the idea of coaching American football in Europe.
Has anyone done this?
One year? Two years?
Can you get a leave of absence for longer than one year?
I teach PE and Special Ed and my wife teaches Music...
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Post by bouncingboredom on Jul 5, 2010 18:05:46 GMT -6
I can't speak for other countries, but if you're coming to the UK then you're going to be coaching for free, largely in the evenings and at weekends. For the most part it'll be College football or adult amateur football.
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Post by turney on Jul 5, 2010 21:38:20 GMT -6
where do u find info on coaching/teaching overseas??
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Post by endersgame on Jul 5, 2010 23:08:38 GMT -6
I'm interested as well. I'm too young for it now but when I finish college it's something I'd like to look into.
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Post by julien on Jul 5, 2010 23:13:19 GMT -6
Coaches,
If you want to come to coach it's pretty easy to find a team in Europe.
As I've already said on here, I can help you if you wanna coach in France.
The problem is to get paid or to find a job here... Teams I know used to provide housing and weekly allowance but if you have a family it could be risky.
And from a coaching point, you have to know that it'll be a non-scholastic environement.
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Post by dacoachmo on Jul 6, 2010 7:15:20 GMT -6
Would Euraopean coaches pay for a coaching clinic??
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Post by bouncingboredom on Jul 6, 2010 8:13:31 GMT -6
Would Euraopean coaches pay for a coaching clinic?? That depends how much and the perceived quality. Coaching clinics over here are sparse to say the least, and usually just involve one teams coaches hosting everyone for a day. |
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Post by coachks on Jul 6, 2010 9:22:23 GMT -6
I'd love to spend a spring/summer coaching over in Europe, but there's no way I could afford housing.
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Post by coachweav88 on Jul 6, 2010 9:35:25 GMT -6
I spent a summer coaching in Ukraine with a missionary group called Christian Outreach International. It was an amazing experience, and I learned a lot! I was only 23 at the time and I learned a lot of coaching lessons. I had raised funds to get there and I stayed with a missionary there. If I didn't have a GA gig lined up here, I would have done it full time. www.coiusa.com/types-of-outreach/sports-outreach/sports-welcome-letter |
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Post by julien on Jul 7, 2010 5:06:10 GMT -6
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Post by julien on Jul 7, 2010 5:09:25 GMT -6
Would European coaches pay for a coaching clinic?? The problem is not to pay for a coaching clinic. To me, it's more of a language issue... If you want to set up a clinic you should try England or North European countries where a lot of people speak English. |
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Post by zaho84 on Jul 7, 2010 7:38:50 GMT -6
Would European coaches pay for a coaching clinic?? The problem is not to pay for a coaching clinic. To me, it's more of a language issue... If you want to set up a clinic you should try England or North European countries where a lot of people speak English. Here in Hungary, there are a lot of coaches who can't speak english at all, but the do get on with clinics. One coach translates to the others. It's a bit time consuming, but at least they get a chance, to participate. |
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Post by jjkuenzel on Jul 8, 2010 1:54:39 GMT -6
I spent last season over in Austria. Fantastic experience. Learned a lot about football and about myself. PM me if you have specific questions about your situation and what you are looking for and I will help out the best I can.
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Post by julien on Jul 8, 2010 4:32:59 GMT -6
I spent last season over in Austria. Fantastic experience. Learned a lot about football and about myself. PM me if you have specific questions about your situation and what you are looking for and I will help out the best I can. What team did you coach in Austria? It's a hell of a league! |
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Post by calkayne on Jul 8, 2010 5:59:08 GMT -6
Here you can select the EFAF Member Leagues. UK and Ireland would be the easiest choices to make due to a lack of Language barrier. I think that Germany and France have the largest scaled Leagues (I could be wrong so dont quote me). In the upper echelons in the EU leagues there is a possibility to receive a renumeration package. I have heard of Coaches being paid (but not much) or being supplied with a home (but not much). But in all honesty, I wouldnt bank on that. Another idea would be to try for a teachingjob on an American Base. Many of the bases have a school team and they are coached locally.
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Post by zaho84 on Jul 8, 2010 7:41:56 GMT -6
Again just my experience, Hungary. Around here, coaches get housing from the team, but that's all. We try to get a them a teaching job in the local highschool, but that's probably just for coaches, who can teach english as a second langauge. Other than that, there's really not much payment for the coach.
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Post by bouncingboredom on Jul 8, 2010 15:14:14 GMT -6
"Another idea would be to try for a teachingjob on an American Base. Many of the bases have a school team and they are coached locally."
That's a hell of a shout right there coach.
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Post by airtrafficcontrol on Jul 8, 2010 16:13:04 GMT -6
anyone interested in Ireland let me know as I'm Technical Director of Coaching here,but be warned,there is zero money in it,it would be up to you to house yourself and earn a living!But it is extremely rewarding and you will learn stuff here you'd never learn in the US(crisis management!lol).
darrin@americanfootball.ie if you are game.
Here is some video of a typical european set up,taken from last months atlantic cup:
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Post by julien on Jul 8, 2010 23:24:54 GMT -6
Coaches,
If you are afraid of language issues, just go to England, Germany, Denmark, Finland or Sweden. There you should be fine.
If you want/need to get paid go to Germany, Austria, Italy and France.
If you want to coach at the best level in Europe, go to Austria and Germany. The last Eurobowl was fantastic between Berlin Adler (Germany) and Swaco Raiders (Asutria).
I do not know for other countries but US HC here in France all have some sort of experience with college ball...
Speaking of France: nice D1 league, pretty good athletes, lifestyle, ladies, wines ;D ;D ;D...
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Post by jjkuenzel on Jul 8, 2010 23:48:36 GMT -6
Guys
I shared this with another board member and I figured I might as well share it with the rest of you.
I got hooked up with my coaching job in Austria through another guy I was coaching with at the time. We both ended up going over there together. If you are looking to get over there without knowing anyone the best bet is through europlayers.com. They have a section for coaches as well as players.
The best leagues over there are the German and Austrian for the football and Italian and Spanish for the weather/culture. Quite frankly, I don't think I would coach in any of the other countries unless the pay was absolutely fantastic.
As a coach, you can expect to get paid anywhere from 500 for an asst coach to 1200 for a HC. The team should also take care of your housing, ALL transportation (make sure you have a train/bus pass and/or a car and not just "access" to a car), insurance, gym membership, and if you can get them to throw in a meal a day that is a bonus.
Typically, there are two types of coaches over there. #1 is the older retired coach. #2 is the young single guy. There isn't much in between. Reason being party financial, but also logistical. Either your wife and kids stay back in the states for 6 months or you bring them over. The problem is what the heck are they going to do all that time. You will have football, they just have you. Lastly, when you come back to the states, unless you have a leave of absence situation, you will need to find another job, which is no walk in the park either.
The level of play in the top leagues is good. I would say it is comparable to mid level Division III. The best way to describe the schemes and knowledge of the players is as such. It is junior high run schemes and college level passing schemes.
The other issue that often comes up is practice. You will get 2-3 practices a week and don't expect all the players to be there. For most of the guys it is a hobby and they do have jobs and families that take priority.
All of that being said, I had an absolutely wonderful experience when I was with the Hohenems Blue Devils. We had a small roster of guys that absolutely played their hearts out. The guys that play football don't do it because it is cool or popular. They are there because they truly love the game of football. I have played and coached on more teams than I can count and I have never more proud to be a part of a team than I was to be a BlueDevil.
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Post by julien on Jul 9, 2010 5:07:12 GMT -6
Guys I shared this with another board member and I figured I might as well share it with the rest of you. I got hooked up with my coaching job in Austria through another guy I was coaching with at the time. We both ended up going over there together. If you are looking to get over there without knowing anyone the best bet is through europlayers.com. They have a section for coaches as well as players. The best leagues over there are the German and Austrian for the football and Italian and Spanish for the weather/culture. Quite frankly, I don't think I would coach in any of the other countries unless the pay was absolutely fantastic. As a coach, you can expect to get paid anywhere from 500 for an asst coach to 1200 for a HC. The team should also take care of your housing, ALL transportation (make sure you have a train/bus pass and/or a car and not just "access" to a car), insurance, gym membership, and if you can get them to throw in a meal a day that is a bonus. Typically, there are two types of coaches over there. #1 is the older retired coach. #2 is the young single guy. There isn't much in between. Reason being party financial, but also logistical. Either your wife and kids stay back in the states for 6 months or you bring them over. The problem is what the heck are they going to do all that time. You will have football, they just have you. Lastly, when you come back to the states, unless you have a leave of absence situation, you will need to find another job, which is no walk in the park either. The level of play in the top leagues is good. I would say it is comparable to mid level Division III. The best way to describe the schemes and knowledge of the players is as such. It is junior high run schemes and college level passing schemes. The other issue that often comes up is practice. You will get 2-3 practices a week and don't expect all the players to be there. For most of the guys it is a hobby and they do have jobs and families that take priority. All of that being said, I had an absolutely wonderful experience when I was with the Hohenems Blue Devils. We had a small roster of guys that absolutely played their hearts out. The guys that play football don't do it because it is cool or popular. They are there because they truly love the game of football. I have played and coached on more teams than I can count and I have never more proud to be a part of a team than I was to be a BlueDevil. You nailed it Coach! Except for having forgotten France in your post!  |
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