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Post by gdn56 on May 28, 2010 19:05:17 GMT -6
A former coach of mine from college has moved on to another program and sent me a very interesting message the other day asking me to define coaching, which led us to a whole discussion on what coaching actually is. He offered a unique perspective, and I am curious to read the definitions of the board.
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Post by bouncingboredom on May 28, 2010 19:16:58 GMT -6
Demonstration of correct form to enhance a given skill set, followed by continuous observation and necessary correction of students reproducing the form.
Offering advice and instruction on the best practice of a given skill set.
Challenging and engaging indivduals to improve a given skill set.
Putting individuals in the best place possible to utilize their individual skills and to maxmise their performance at a given task.
Providing constant support and encouragement to indivduals in the application of a given skill set.
Forming a rapport with students that is sufficient to endear you to them without crossing professional boundaries.
And many, many other things.
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Post by ajreaper on May 28, 2010 22:52:35 GMT -6
it's teaching by another name nothing more and nothing less.
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Post by coachorr on May 29, 2010 8:45:42 GMT -6
Refraining from breaking a clip board in a season.
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Post by gdn56 on May 29, 2010 15:21:43 GMT -6
Haha ha. That one is certainly not what I had in mind, but there is a lot of truth to it.
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Post by blb on May 29, 2010 15:43:32 GMT -6
it's teaching by another name nothing more and nothing less. What he said. Specifically - teaching commitment, self-discipline, and responsibility. |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 29, 2010 15:51:52 GMT -6
it's teaching by another name nothing more and nothing less. I have to disagree with this a bit. By that token, one could say being a Pastor/Priest is "just teaching"... You would have to really get tangential to start working some things a coach does to get back to the teaching. Teaching is a big part of it...but is finding your BEST 11 and putting them where they need to be to help the TEAM the most teaching? Is ordering buses and sandwiches teaching? Is lining the fields teaching? Is inventory/maintenance of equipment teaching? |
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Post by phantom on May 29, 2010 15:58:22 GMT -6
it's teaching by another name nothing more and nothing less. I have to disagree with this a bit. By that token, one could say being a Pastor/Priest is "just teaching"... You would have to really get tangential to start working some things a coach does to get back to the teaching. Teaching is a big part of it...but is finding your BEST 11 and putting them where they need to be to help the TEAM the most teaching? Is ordering buses and sandwiches teaching? Is lining the fields teaching? Is inventory/maintenance of equipment teaching? All jobs have extraneous duties involved, include classroom teaching. Bus duty, lunch duty, etc. As we found out in the "Dues" thread, not all coaches line the field and such. They'd better all be teaching. |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 29, 2010 16:07:43 GMT -6
I agree...I just think that summing up coaching in one word...teaching... really stretches the definition of "teaching"
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Post by blb on May 29, 2010 16:47:05 GMT -6
I have to disagree with this a bit. By that token, one could say being a Pastor/Priest is "just teaching"... You would have to really get tangential to start working some things a coach does to get back to the teaching. Teaching is a big part of it...but is finding your BEST 11 and putting them where they need to be to help the TEAM the most teaching? Is ordering buses and sandwiches teaching? Is lining the fields teaching? Is inventory/maintenance of equipment teaching? Those are just examples of how The Coach goes about modeling the things he's teaching - commitment, self-discipline, responsibility. |
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Post by phantom on May 30, 2010 1:57:35 GMT -6
I agree...I just think that summing up coaching in one word...teaching... really stretches the definition of "teaching" I think of the old saying, "When you're up to your a$$ in alligators it's hard to remember that your primary objective was to drain the swamp.". |
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Post by jg08mhs on May 30, 2010 2:05:41 GMT -6
A former coach of mine from college has moved on to another program and sent me a very interesting message the other day asking me to define coaching, which led us to a whole discussion on what coaching actually is. He offered a unique perspective, and I am curious to read the definitions of the board. Would you be willing to share with us his unique perspective? |
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Post by John Knight on May 30, 2010 5:20:28 GMT -6
You just drive the wagon, I'll worry about the mules going blind!
That pretty much sums it up!
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Post by coachd5085 on May 30, 2010 12:13:41 GMT -6
I have to disagree with this a bit. By that token, one could say being a Pastor/Priest is "just teaching"... You would have to really get tangential to start working some things a coach does to get back to the teaching. Teaching is a big part of it...but is finding your BEST 11 and putting them where they need to be to help the TEAM the most teaching? Is ordering buses and sandwiches teaching? Is lining the fields teaching? Is inventory/maintenance of equipment teaching? Those are just examples of how The Coach goes about modeling the things he's teaching - commitment, self-discipline, responsibility. So the waitress is modeling the things she is teaching? Courtesy, organization, attention to detail? The garbage pick up man is modeling what he is teaching... efficiency, humility, responsibility? |
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Post by bouncingboredom on May 30, 2010 13:20:54 GMT -6
Just so everyone knows, there is still room in the bunker before the war begins. Tin hats provided.
INCOMING!!
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Post by fishon37 on May 30, 2010 14:05:29 GMT -6
to instruct, direct, or prompt as a coach(verb)
a person who trains an athlete or a team of athletes:(noun)
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Post by dsqa on May 30, 2010 14:26:02 GMT -6
Being willing to do what others are not, so that those they serve can get what they need...
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Post by gdn56 on May 30, 2010 17:23:49 GMT -6
Would you be willing to share with us his unique perspective?
Yes. His simple definition of coaching is to make an unaware creature unaware. As I thought about that I really try to complicate it, but ultimately, that is what the designed aim is. Now, where the argument comes in is what to make the creature aware of, and how to go about making them aware, but ultimately, the definition sums it up. He continued that you make them aware of the things that you have had or witnessed success with, and you make them aware by repping the correct way as many times as possible while in a variety of situations so that they may be ready for any given situation. Good stuff.
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Post by bouncingboredom on May 30, 2010 19:24:39 GMT -6
uhm, you wrote "to make an unaware creature unaware". I'm guessing you meant ".. an unaware creature aware"?
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Post by davishfc on May 30, 2010 21:06:40 GMT -6
The original meaning of the term coach was: a horse-drawn vehicle designed for the conveyance of more than one passenger. A coach took people from "where they were to where they wanted to be." This is what coaching is...taking a group of kids from a variety of backgrounds to the same unified goal. Any responsibilities that arise while in pursuit of that end is the essence of coaching.
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Post by coachplaa on May 30, 2010 22:45:52 GMT -6
I think it is all about good feedback. Verbal or visual feedback, good teachers/coaches give as much specific feedback as possible.
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Post by gdn56 on May 31, 2010 19:31:43 GMT -6
Yes, I did mean unaware to aware....wouldn't make much sense the other way now would it? My bad on that.
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Post by gambler00 on May 31, 2010 19:45:56 GMT -6
Coaching helping kids learn the tough lessons that they cannot learn anywhere else.
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Post by endersgame on Jun 1, 2010 0:00:55 GMT -6
Teaching.
To take a person from point A to point Z.
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Post by John Knight on Jun 1, 2010 5:14:00 GMT -6
a little wiki-plagurism:
Sports coaching
Main article: coach (sports)
In sports, a coach or manager is an individual involved in the direction, instruction and training of the operations of a sports team or of individual sportspeople. This type of coach gets involved in all the aspects of the sport, including physical and mental player development. Sports coaches train, develop and mentor their athletes to become better at the physical components of the game. The coach is assumed to know more about the sport, and have more previous experience and knowledge. The coach’s job is to transfer as much of this knowledge and experience to the players to develop the most skilled athletes. Combining these aspects of the sport, the coach is accountable for the overall performance and results of the team or player.
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Post by shields on Jun 1, 2010 8:33:37 GMT -6
It's about BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS--building confidence, self-esteem, and a feeling of contribution in every member; encouraging open and honest communication; respecting the dignity, diversity, and faith of every person...to name a few key principles of coaching to me.
Others include LEADING which requires trust and TEACHING which has been mentioned numerous times.
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