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Post by coachknight on May 27, 2010 5:08:35 GMT -6
In the Bad TV/Movies Coaches, the thread was starting to move toward how the unrealistic portrayal of coaches on tv/movies affects those of us that do coach. One of my beefs is how simple they all make it look. I would guess most of the wannabe's in the stands don't understand the work and level of complexity that coaching requires. Last year we had two dads (who had played the game) as our middle school coaches. Our HC invited them to the Glazier Clinic. One of them made a comment about how it was more in depth than he thought.
Anyway, to my question: How many of us actually were taught about how to coach, and if so, how? I was a GA at an NAIA school for three years and was taught how to watch film more in depth, plan practices, understand how the whole offense works together, etc. Having played WR, I'd never been asked to know more than my routes and coverages. I remember the first college game I watched after being taught blocking schemes. It was like I was seeing a whole new game. Anyone else care to share?
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Post by currier58 on May 27, 2010 6:37:17 GMT -6
I went from being a high school coach, to a GA, to a full time college coach. There was definately a learning curve when it comes to the X's and O's but I do even think that was the most important lesson. I think the most important things I have learned involve developing players, the work ethic it takes to succeed at the highest levels, how important personal relationships are, and the list could go on and on. My point is that X's and O's are not even close to the most important thing I have learned.
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Post by John Knight on May 27, 2010 6:37:21 GMT -6
I was taught by Terry Bowden. He taught me to break down film back when it was FILM and how to splice it together to make cut ups when they really were cut ups. That little splicer machine went flying to the wall more than once! I learned to read fronts and how to draw up blocking schemes based on rules. I was also student teaching at the time and I was exhausted but really it was the most fun I ever had. I really look back and kick myself for leaving but I was offered a job over the Christmas Break and $9000 a year seemed like a lot of money at the time. Sheesh, what an idiot!
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Post by dsqa on May 27, 2010 7:04:16 GMT -6
One thing is clear, there is more to know about this game than one can learn in a lifetime.
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Post by coachknight on May 27, 2010 7:15:11 GMT -6
One thing is clear, there is more to know about this game than one can learn in a lifetime. Amen! After 15 years of coaching, and 10 playing, I still feel like I'm barely scratching the surface. It's only been recently that I even feel like I know enough to know what questions to ask at a clinic or visiting other coaches. This website has been an amazing tool in order to learn more. What a vast repository of knowledge. |
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Post by mariner42 on May 27, 2010 7:16:24 GMT -6
I've always just kinda done it like the guys I used to play for. I'm currently being trained up by our new header and that sh!t is frustrating. I don't know when the last time I got the answer right on the first try was, I think it was when he asked me what my name was.
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Post by blb on May 27, 2010 7:18:59 GMT -6
The most obvious consideration is technical competence. But the most important is a coach's ability as a teacher.
I have seen guys who were great teachers learn the necessary Xs and Os from those they worked with, but haven't seen very many poor teachers make it.
One way to help "train" yourself is read biographies or autobiographies of successful coaches, not just in football.
Most young guys starting out doing what they did in college.
You become a better coach when you look at and analyze what you're doing. You can learn from the negative things too, just by paying attention.
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Post by shields on May 27, 2010 8:32:13 GMT -6
True! Coaching is teaching...teaching is coaching. Great coaches are also great teachers.
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Post by John Knight on May 27, 2010 8:44:50 GMT -6
I learned alot of what not to do in my first 3 years as a high school coach! My next 10 years I got to work with an offensive genius/mentor/ and learned to scout a game like you are supposed to. I also learned to cuss in ways I have never dreamed of, LOL! Ed Bolin was an awesome teacher and I miss him every day. It was 3 or 4 years after he was gone that I quit calling his phone number.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on May 27, 2010 9:12:47 GMT -6
I had a very thorough OL coach in college. Watching film with him was like going to a clinic everyday (thanks bigm0073!) Between him and the OC I learned SO MUCH about offensive football and defensive structure.
Both of these guys pushed me towards coaching
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