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Post by younggun10 on May 20, 2010 15:42:29 GMT -6
Who on here coaches at the hs or college level and doesn't hold a teaching job? I was wondering what other jobs possibly mesh for those who would like to coach but do not want a teaching job.
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Post by pmeisel on May 20, 2010 19:26:28 GMT -6
Not me, but I know 3 non-teaching coaches well. One owns his own electrical business. One works for a trucking company as a dispatcher/scheduler and works a very early shift, off by 2 pm every day. One worked until recently (retired) in a factory, and had enough seniority to get a job that had a 5 am - 1:30 pm regular shift.
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Post by bighit65 on May 20, 2010 21:04:59 GMT -6
I work for a tree company but the job sucks so don't consider it.
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Post by phantom on May 20, 2010 21:43:59 GMT -6
I work for a tree company but the job sucks so don't consider it. And there's the rub- a lot of jobs that are available for a young guy that would allow him to coach suck. That's fine when you're in your early 20s but how long are you willing to keep at it? What are your long-range career and life goals? What do you see yourself doing for the next 30-40 years? Where do you live? In some states you can't coach HS football unless you work for the school system. In many, if not most, others the prospects for advancement for a non-teaching coach are very limited.
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Post by coachbiggers on May 21, 2010 5:20:07 GMT -6
I work for the DOD and I get of work at 3:00 and I work 10 min from my school so i've been very blessed to have a regular job I like and I get to go my life long passion in the afternoon!
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Post by brophy on May 21, 2010 6:37:28 GMT -6
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Post by shields on May 21, 2010 7:26:59 GMT -6
Not to burst any bubbles, but we have two guys that help us out. Both work for Fed Ex so they cannot come to practice until their deliveries are made. Interestingly, early in the season they make it to many more practices than they do as the season wears on, but they never miss a Varsity game. I'm not saying it's like this everywhere, but if I was the header, I wouldn't put up with it. Either you're in it all the way or you are not. The extra help is nice, but the season doesn't begin with the first game and end with the last one. If you can commit fully, welcome aboard. If not, coach pee wee ball. JMO.
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Post by brophy on May 21, 2010 7:30:24 GMT -6
Interestingly, early in the season they make it to many more practices than they do as the season wears on, but they never miss a Varsity game. . ironically, we have two (on campus) teachers on staff that do the same thing
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Post by blb on May 21, 2010 7:55:38 GMT -6
I cannot imagine guys who are paid to coach being allowed to continue if they miss meetings, practices, etc.
We welcome volunteers if they are good character people-work well with kids but if they can't make the necessary time committment they can't coach a position, only assist.
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Post by hlb2 on May 21, 2010 8:24:30 GMT -6
I'm the HC and own my own land survyeing and civil engineering business. Where there's a will there's a way!!!!
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Post by dubber on May 21, 2010 12:25:55 GMT -6
I run my own business. I make my hours.
So, it's up at 5 AM and seeing clients after practice during season.
Sometimes I am sprinting to the field in my shirt and tie, but I've never missed a practice........
Basically, you need a sweet gig (our DC works for UPS and his manager use to play ball, so he can get his 40 when he needs to), or you need to run your own show, which is scary.
Also, you probably need to be realistic about advancement. Either at another school or even on your own staff.........
My situation is a little unique (I have some opportunties, though all I want is to be a coordinator someday, NEVER an HC), but for the most part, you take what you can get.........
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Post by dubber on May 21, 2010 12:26:34 GMT -6
Who on here coaches at the hs or college level and doesn't hold a teaching job? I was wondering what other jobs possibly mesh for those who would like to coach but do not want a teaching job. I bet CPA works well for this........
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Post by bigcroz on May 21, 2010 12:38:17 GMT -6
Currently the DC, but have been a HC. I am a registered nurse. work 3 12 hr shifts per week. usually during season work Sat, Sun, and Mon. gives me all the time I need to be everywhere I need to be.
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Post by coachguy83 on May 21, 2010 16:33:00 GMT -6
I am currently an unemployed student. I am trying to find a job that does not get in the way of coaching, but it is very hard. My wife in understanding because I am going to school to be a teacher and coaching gets experience on the resume. I am currently in a situation where I have to volunteer, but I am hoping that within the next couple of years I will be able to pick up a paying gig. The only saving grace of my current job is I can walk to the school which cuts down on overhead.
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Post by pmeisel on May 22, 2010 8:23:54 GMT -6
"I bet CPA works well for this........ " Not necessarily, depends on the specialty and the firm. However one specialty to consider would be tax accounting and tax preparation, for the following reasons: - Heavy hours (50-70 per week) occur Jan-April... slows down April15
- Many firms reduce hours (36-40/week) through the summer months
- Some firms use part-time or seasonal help -- if you combine a tax-season full-time gig with a decent seasonal warm weather gig, maybe you can make it, I have seen a couple folks do that
- It's a pretty portable career, if you need to change towns to coach there is somebody that needs tax work done in that town.
- If you have experience and credentials you can hang out your own shingle and work for yourself. Can be economically difficult but possible.
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on May 22, 2010 8:40:53 GMT -6
Currently the DC, but have been a HC. I am a registered nurse. work 3 12 hr shifts per week. usually during season work Sat, Sun, and Mon. gives me all the time I need to be everywhere I need to be. Greg Focker? Is that you? Sorry - couldn't help myself.... haha
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Post by jgordon1 on May 22, 2010 10:22:32 GMT -6
I have heard of guys that were insurance agants that were football coaches
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Post by gunrun on May 22, 2010 10:28:43 GMT -6
We had a guy that was an accountant and it worked for him. Bigcroz, how hard was all of that when trying to gameplan on the weekend, too.
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Post by coachks on May 22, 2010 18:15:51 GMT -6
Probably anything involving website design, or anything computer related that can be done at home.
We coach against a guy who is a Real Estate agent.
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Post by mc140 on May 22, 2010 22:05:13 GMT -6
A couple of my friends are police officers. Both work the 11pm-7am shift.
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Post by bigcroz on May 23, 2010 13:23:14 GMT -6
BLB- Not really that bad. I never sleep the day before my first shiftso would do alot of the breakdown on Sat during the day. Then alot of the gameplanning stuff at work during lunch, breaks and any other "down" time I could find. Also had a VERY GOOD assistant who would break stuff down on his own and then we would get together Sun night before I went to work and compare notes and thoughts. then I would finalize stuff Sunday night, get copies to the rest of staff and be ready to rock Monday afternoon. Now as the DC it is alot easier because only 1 side of the ball to really concentrate on.
PIGSKIN11 not greg just BIG FOCKER!
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Post by 44dlcoach on May 23, 2010 13:41:51 GMT -6
I work for a CPA and like pmeisel says you can work around football season as a tax preparer. Sure stuff comes up every now and then, and I have missed three practices over the last two years because something all of the sudden needed to be done that day, but for the most part it's pretty flexible
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Post by kylem56 on May 23, 2010 16:32:52 GMT -6
some coaches I know..: - real estate agent - landscaping - works at YMCA (they have flexible and early morning shifts) - personal trainer - police officer - has a masters degree and teaches online courses
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Post by atalbert on May 25, 2010 11:43:57 GMT -6
I'm a banker. I was lucky enough to be sought after for my current position and during the interview process we came to an agreement that between the 2nd week of August and Thanksgiving I would be leaving the bank every day at 3:00. They went for it... It helps that there was another bank employee who is a head basketball coach at an area school and he does the same thing, just for an extra month. I told them it was a great way to get out and meet people in the community To make up missing all of my closing duties during the week , I gladly work the dreaded Saturday shift every week (7-12 am). The bank lobby is closed on Saturdays, so basically I just need to open and close and make sure the drive-thru people don't have any issues. It's amazing how much film you can watch on the board room projector when nobody bothers you for 5 hours.
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Post by mattharris75 on May 25, 2010 13:59:09 GMT -6
I am a technical writer/illustrator (Also do some of my work with HTML, javascript, XML, etc). I do all my work on computer and have relatively little outside interaction, so there's a good bit of flexibility as long as you get the job done. It's been nice. I think I've only missed half a practice in the 3 years that I've been at this job.
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Post by zbessac on May 25, 2010 14:54:10 GMT -6
I am a city employee. I start at 7:30 and off at 3:30. I am maybe 10 mins from school on a bad traffic day. Our practice doesn't start until 4:10 so I have plenty of time. I also can get off from work at the drop of a hat as long as I have the time. One last thing, I am able to earn up to 6 weeks extra time off by working overtime in the winter. So I don't have to jeopardize family vacation in the summer to have time off during 2 a days in august.
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Post by coachzola on Jun 8, 2010 8:51:15 GMT -6
CPA....thoughts..
I've been out of HS football for 6 years, coaching semi-pro for 6 buying my time to get back into hs ball. Tried many professions and have been lucky enough to put myself through school to become and tax accountant.
Settled for a small firm where I might not make as much money as I would at a bigger firms, but it allows me the flexibility to get back into HS ball.
After six years 5 months, have finally landed a HC job at a small tech school.
If you are willing to sacrifice there are careers out there that will allow you to do the things you love. I happen to love both!
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Post by formrbcbuc on Jun 8, 2010 15:18:47 GMT -6
Hopefully I will be able to keep coaching while working in a retail store for a major hardware/ home improvement store. Basically going to try to work the 6am-2:30 or 3 pm shift.
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Post by CoachFetty on Jun 8, 2010 18:06:07 GMT -6
I work a quirky shift...1 am to 10am....in the sanitation industry...
I run the scalehouse at a landfill...
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Post by CatsCoach on Jun 10, 2010 12:50:49 GMT -6
I working in sales and I start work at 7:30 and i'm done by 3:15-3:30.
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