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Post by Wingtman on May 20, 2010 8:21:43 GMT -6
There have been 2 jobs open up in the last week. Most schools in Missouri are out either Friday of this week or next week.
What do you see the problems of taking a HC job now being other then the obvious (hoping the last guy had a summer schedule)?
Just a topic for disccusion on this rainy day.
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Post by fatkicker on May 20, 2010 8:55:40 GMT -6
trying to get info sheets on players....summer schedules for players......summer schedule for coaches....
taking care of the grass.....it's almost too late to MSMA the field......
summer work orders...... field house paint.... bleacher repair..... sometimes hard to locate necessary people to get these jobs done.... or get parts/supplies ordered....
installing new offense/defense during summer weights..... won't be much time for live review except for the 3 weeks of preseason practice......
usually coaching staffs are complete.....meaning you may be a "cloud o dust" guy and have a staff full of spread guys..... and all of you must find a way to play nice.......
i may be put in this situation very soon...... i interviewed for a job nearby......may get offered in the next few days..... getting the entire staff on board is probably at the top of my list as what could be the most difficult issue....
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Post by gdn56 on May 20, 2010 14:39:19 GMT -6
I am an assistant and last summer our HC left to take a grad assistant job at a college and the new HC came in with just a few weeks to go before the season. It was very tough on him, the kids, and the other assistants. It just really left everyone with no adjustment time to a new guy and a new way of doing things. The attitude of the kids toward him has improved remarkably this offseason just because the kids are familiar with his way of doing things and he actually has time to relax and get to know them. I guess my point is that if you take it, make sure you prioritize getting to know the kids because if you don't, it can be a long season.
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Post by shields on May 21, 2010 7:46:24 GMT -6
Great topic. I'd like to keep it going. If a school knows the HC is retiring or moving on since March yet waits until there's two weeks of school left to begin the search process for a new HC, what does this say about the school, AD, priorities about athletics, etc.? I just met with an AD about an HC position and he told me the job would be posted this week for three weeks and they hoped to hire someone by the end of school? How in the dickins will the new HC get in touch with the kids? I told him I thought he was making a mistake by waiting that long....Comments?
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Post by blb on May 21, 2010 7:51:15 GMT -6
You are correct, shields.
Many years ago I pulled my name out at my alma mater in similar situation, which at the time was my "dream job."
They didn't hire until July, shortly before practice started. Guy went 2-6 that season, won 10 games in five years and predictably was fired.
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Post by gunrun on May 21, 2010 8:02:29 GMT -6
Great topic. I'd like to keep it going. If a school knows the HC is retiring or moving on since March yet waits until there's two weeks of school left to begin the search process for a new HC, what does this say about the school, AD, priorities about athletics, etc.? I just met with an AD about an HC position and he told me the job would be posted this week for three weeks and they hoped to hire someone by the end of school? How in the dickins will the new HC get in touch with the kids? I told him I thought he was making a mistake by waiting that long....Comments? Shields, I initially was going to say that despite the problems, this could be an ideal way to get your foot in the door of becoming a HC, but you make a good point. The fact that the school waited this long is a big warning flag that the admin does not understand nor will adequately support football, making success difficult.
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Post by kylem56 on May 21, 2010 8:30:37 GMT -6
#1 Getting the players to buy into you and your vision. Having your coaching staff in place is important but hell if you have your staff in place but 3/4's of the team don't believe in your plan then your doomed. Build relationships as quick as possible (meet the coach night, setting aside time after workouts, having a lock-in before camp, go away for camp if possible, be visible at as many school functions as possible). I know one coach who took over a program in mid-July. First he held the usual team meeting for parents and players. He had a sign-up sheet go around the room and had each family sign up for a time for a in-home visit. Each visit was 30 minutes and took him 3 days but he made sure to go into each family's home and meet them, and let them get to know him.
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Post by fatkicker on May 21, 2010 8:38:23 GMT -6
great idea about the home visits...... i may add that to my list of things to do....
especially if mom is a good cook....
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on May 21, 2010 9:34:09 GMT -6
Been there as an OC. I came in August 1st, camp started Aug 15. It was rough as the HC wasn't hired until May either...
I'd think the hardest thing would be to get everyone on the same page- coaches, players, and support staff. Also, like others have said, making sure the players are aware of your expectations.
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Post by coachguy83 on May 21, 2010 16:49:48 GMT -6
I have played in this situation and have applied for a job that may put me in this situation. My senior year of high school our new head coach came in two weeks before the start of camp, which in Illinois means he could do very little do to the no contact period. His staff was in place and was hostile towards him because one of the guys thought the job should have been his and the school had very little support for him. Needless to say we went 0-9 and was blown out in every game and the coach left after the season.
I think the best thing to do in that possition is to build for year two. Install a basic version of your system and rep the hell out of technique. Try to win a couple of games and be ready for the next season so you can win then.
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