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Post by wingtol on May 9, 2010 9:24:27 GMT -6
We have been a very successful program over the last several years with great players and parental support. But this year for some reason we are getting the vibe that some players and parents think individual stats are the most important thing. For example we had a Jr RB finish 2nd in the district in rushing, all schools all classes, and we are hearing his dad thinks he didn't get enough carries last year (the kid who was #1 had almost 100 more carries and only 50 more yards). There are some other players who are showing more of a selfish side and think stats get you scholarships no matter that I have told them 1000x's that stats don't get you offers alone.
So I was thinking....anyone not keep stats? To send the message that the final score is all that matters? Now we have no district, league, or state rules that require stats. So anyone think of doing this or done it in the past?
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Post by 19delta on May 9, 2010 9:38:32 GMT -6
Coach -
I think it is a great idea in theory.
However, what about the kids who are good enough to play college ball? I know that you said that stats don't necessarily equal scholarships, but, without objective "numbers", how do those players get their names there? Won't you need stats for them? What about all-Conference, all-Area, or all-State honors? Those are usually pretty dependent on stats. How about the media? The paper usually wants stats.
Or are you talking about keeping stats but just not sharing them with the kids? I think that could be a good idea...maybe keep all the stats and not give them to the kids until the banquet at the end of the season?
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Post by coachd5085 on May 9, 2010 9:55:46 GMT -6
wingt---the parents will bring pad and pencils to the game and keep their own stats....
As evidenced by all of those praising the Whybark kid in the NAIA golf tournament thing...people just don't get what it is about.
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Post by oguru on May 9, 2010 9:55:54 GMT -6
College coaches look at film more then stats. If the kid is good enough to earn a scholarship. It will show on film.
I think you should keep stat but not share it with anyone except your staff and obviously the newspaper who need them for post game write ups.
Also you need to keep them for all conference voting. I would also empahsize to any player that if you hear them complaining about stats you will BENCH them. Make an exampole out of the first kid who does and sit them for a quarter and then two quarters and so on.
That will teach them a lesson. Football is a TEAM sport and if kids are complaining about a lack of stats then they are not buying into the team attitude.
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Post by phantom on May 9, 2010 10:51:04 GMT -6
wingt---the parents will bring pad and pencils to the game and keep their own stats.... I agree. Somebody's going to be keeping stats. If the coach doesn't how can he refute anything that those people say? |
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Post by davishfc on May 9, 2010 11:43:21 GMT -6
Keep stats so the media is informed and you have objective data for any interest by recruiters. As others have stated, you would also be able to distribute these to the kids at the end of the season which would help avoid that week to week carries, attempts, yards per carry, yards per catch, total yards crap. I like the idea of offensive and defensive units stats being used to demonstrate the success of those units. Not the individual but the 11 that made it all happen together whether it was moving the ball and scoring or getting stops and setting up field position. Not making stats known during the season would keep minimize stat talk by your staff as much as possible which would emphasize the team concept much more to the players.
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Post by cowboy50 on May 9, 2010 12:43:00 GMT -6
We have a huge board that has nothing but team goals on it. That is the focal point of our bulletin board. Off to the side we have individual statistics on a sheet of paper printed off the computer. Do you give out helmet stickers? Give stickers based on team goals, and not for individual stats.
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Post by 19delta on May 9, 2010 14:34:02 GMT -6
you are that concerned about what parents think? That clearly is not what he said. |
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Post by wingtol on May 9, 2010 14:37:41 GMT -6
you are that concerned about what parents think? No if you read what I posted it was to send a msg to the players that no one is above the team, all we care about is the final score. So either get on board or get out cause we will go on with out you. |
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Post by jpdaley25 on May 9, 2010 15:34:04 GMT -6
I did that last year for the same reasons you are thinking of doing it, and it's one of the best things I've done. Yes, parents and press will keep their own stats but they are not official. I take the stats off the film and keep them hidden until the end of the year. If I need them for when I'm talking to a college coach, I've got them - but no college coach has ever asked for stats. All they ask for is film, grades, size, and speed. I won't release any stats, and I won't listen to selfish parents complaining about number of touches. It really helped promote the team concept last year, and I'll never go back to the old way of doing it.
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