Forced to run an offense

If the boosters are dictating the offense, that's a sure sign of the apocalypse

On top of the slap in the face that is forcing an OC to run a certain offense instead of him choosing what he runs, how about the liklihood that the OC will be much worse implementing an offense he does not know as well? That will be what gets him fired.

Phantom,

With the phrase "fired they will be", you sound alot like this guy:



Anyway, back to the thread. I believe this has to be a huge red flag for everyone involved that the boosters feel so entitled to personally adopt the offensive system for the coaching staff. The fact that it's the TF system is beside the point. The boosters are saying "here, you will run this offense and you will win." That's not how it works and only the most disillusioned people would ever believe that is how programs are successful. That, to me, spells the beginning of the end. Anyone that thinks otherwise clearly does not understand the meaning of the word "undermine". The Header sets the direction of the program with input from the assistants who all buy in to form a united front. In conclusion...get out, bounce, abandon ship, eject, may day, SOS, whatever you want to call it. But get out right now before anybody gets fired because, in the words of Yoda, I mean Phantom, fired they will be ;D JMO

I can't think of a way you can be successful doing something you don't believe in. This doesn't just apply to football.

Just to clarify, it seems like the HC and the OC are from this town, born and raised, and they seem totally "sold" on the TFS. It's really a peculiar situation. Thanks for this thread though, Phantom. I think it will be enlightening for many.

The coaches (OC and HC) seem to be totally sold on it.

Sorry, Phantom, for throwing the thread off a bit. If anyone has something to say about the the thread in question, say it on that thread. Let's keep them separated.

It sounds like you're talking about being a sub-varsity coach being forced to run the varsity's system. If so, that's not what I'm talking about. That happens all the time. The question is more about a situation where outsiders (boosters, admin) force the team to run a system that they don't believe in.

I posted almost the exact same thing in the other thread before I saw this one.

Now Loch, I put a picture of an Iceburg on the other thread, I'm not about to put a picture of a...well, you know.

Here's the ONLY way this could work, or could have worked, (because we already know it's not)
But lets just say that WITHOUT pressure from the P.T.B., the coaches decided among themselves that they wanted to change what they have done all their lives.

If they did it on their own, if they looked at their talent and said, "go for it," then I've seen that work.
But I've never seen a coach from being under pressure from the boosters to "be more exciting" do anything but fail.

And the reason? It's not his idea, that's why.

When you're late in the 4th quarter, everybody is bleeding and only "full grown men" are standing, you are near the goal line going in to win that all important game and all you know is Wing-T, what are you going to run?

Don't tell me it's going to be Black 85 F-Move Double Under X-Post

OJW

1. Anytime a booster or administration is dictating the Xs and Os, it's time to move on. They obviously don't have as much knowledge about football as a coach does and they shouldn't be pushing ANYTHING. Secondly, it's an ego trip; a booster who provides money to the program but feels that they are entitled to pushing an offense or a defense isn't funding the program for the right reasons.

2. I have nothing against coaches that buy into a spread offense, but everyone else that does p-sses me off. The media is now the driving force behind a HS football program and sports writers are morons.

3. I know that every offense can succeed if they're well coached; Wing T, Air Raid, Super-Mongo-Power Z, whatever. But, if you and your staff don't agree with the philosophy than there will be problems. They might not coach to the best of their abilities because they disagree with the offense. If the offense is struggling, everyone on the staff is going to be p-ssed off because they're being forced to run something they don't like.

4. If the boosters are calling the shots, what's going to stop them from buying into the next popular offense? What happens if the Maryland I becomes to the new 'in offense' and you have an OL that averages 190lbs? Again, offenses that are well coached have the chance to be effective, but there are points that need to be taken into consideration. You don't want to be bouncing around between offenses based on personnel; but there are schemes that need a big, physical OL (or other personnel) to succeed.

5. If the 'spread' doesn't pan out, the boosters are going to be in everyone's ear and coaches will lose their jobs. Screw that; run as fast as you can.