elkabong
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Post by elkabong on May 3, 2010 9:33:36 GMT -6
I was curious if anyone has been exposed to this, where you just kind of coach on the fly with no clear definitions, but just present concepts to players?
I'm at a new place now and instead of getting detailed in steps or aiming points, we just kind of speak in generalities (to get the job done). Also, there is no real install plan, just individual time to do 'whatever we need' before going to group periods.
I've asked the coordinators how they want to handle / teach against specific looks/situations and they don't have an answer and never specify a clear cut answer ('its not important')
Is this beneficial for some kid/populations over others, or should each (successful) program be specific in what they teach?
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Post by unc31 on May 3, 2010 9:53:03 GMT -6
In programs with that type of leadership and planning, one of two things is true:
1. You get your eyes beat in
2. You out athlete your opponents and win despite your lack of coaching and preparation.
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Post by NC1974 on May 3, 2010 10:55:51 GMT -6
I think as coaches, it's our job to prepare every kids as best we can. In the above example, I think the smartest most dedicated kids will pick things up eventually, but there will be plenty of others that will get lost. IMHO, football needs to be taught with specific, sequential progressions. This gives you the most chance of getting everyone on the same page.
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Post by blb on May 3, 2010 11:20:28 GMT -6
Nothing good happens by accident. That's why people call bad things "accidents."
Need an advanced plan for everything.
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Post by mitch on May 3, 2010 19:23:58 GMT -6
Sounds like either laziness or incompetence.
Or both.
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Post by cc on May 3, 2010 23:18:25 GMT -6
I worked with a guy who came back with answers like "they wont do that" or "the kids will figure it out" when asked about our defensive adjustments to certain sets.
He was very laissez-faire and did not seem to have a total package plan.
We got our butts kicked in the playoffs because we could not adjust.
Of course now he is "coaching" in the pros. WTF!?!
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JMC
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Post by JMC on May 4, 2010 9:08:49 GMT -6
Coached with a guy who was like this. He'd made it to state semifinals twice because he had such unbelivable athletes, when the talent dried up so did he. If you suggested something he'd say well we've just never had to do it before, we have better athletes.
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Post by bobgoodman on May 4, 2010 18:03:30 GMT -6
I was curious if anyone has been exposed to this, where you just kind of coach on the fly with no clear definitions, but just present concepts to players? I'm at a new place now and instead of getting detailed in steps or aiming points, we just kind of speak in generalities (to get the job done). Also, there is no real install plan, just individual time to do 'whatever we need' before going to group periods. I've asked the coordinators how they want to handle / teach against specific looks/situations and they don't have an answer and never specify a clear cut answer ('its not important') I think they're giving you or whoever's HC a line. Maybe for some reason they prefer to keep you in the dark, as if you represent some kind of threat. |
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Post by fingerz42 on May 5, 2010 7:15:36 GMT -6
In programs with that type of leadership and planning, one of two things is true: 1. You get your eyes beat in 2. You out athlete your opponents and win despite your lack of coaching and preparation. You hit it right on the head. |
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Post by leighty on May 5, 2010 7:32:53 GMT -6
There's a term for those guys - "slapdick." I hate slapdicks.
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Post by coachdubyah on May 5, 2010 8:02:59 GMT -6
Heard a quote from a local Head Coach. Granted he coaches Girls Softball, but it still fits here. For the last 5 years his teams have gone to at least the state semifinals. They have won state 3 of the last 5 years with some very good talent. He said that after next year he was 'quitting after next year because he will have no talent'. I know we say this sometimes jokingly, but this guy is serious and has told the principal of the school already. One girl that will graduate next year accounted for over half the teams RBI's this year. Funny thing, they got beat this past weekend in the state semifinals by a team that went 16 and 14 this season. The team that beat them had 1 all district player.
This crap p!sses me off as well.
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