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Post by gdf on Apr 24, 2010 9:23:35 GMT -6
Coaches I'm looking for some input & advice regarding my current situation.
Currently I'm the varsity DC and our Boys Head Track Coach. It is extremely likely that in the next year or two I will be our varsity HC. In track I work with our sprinters. My primary motivation for taking on the track position was two fold. First, no one else would take it. Secondly, I though it would benefit our program by encouraging our WR/DB/LB kids to run track and be able to lift. I've enjoyed coaching track, but it is certainly not something that I have a passion for.
I guess my question is, how much does this setup benefit our FB program? Every year I go back and forth with this, but am not sure. If it isn't something that's benefiting the program, then I would rather spend my time doing other things that could.
So, any thoughts on whether this is helping our program?
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Post by cc on Apr 24, 2010 9:30:40 GMT -6
SPEED KILLS!
If you are helping your kids get faster it is worth it. Really it's about the effectiveness of your sprint training. IF you can still do it as the HC of the football program and it's paying off with faster players than it IS helping your program without a doubt. But you do have to weight it against what it could be taking you and your kids away from that is football specific. We are training our kids but also encouraging them to go to track, but we have track coaches and we are staying with our FB kids and incorporating the guys doing track when they come to us...
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Post by captain31 on Apr 24, 2010 15:46:35 GMT -6
If you can find another guy to be the track coach who is as good as or better than you, let him do it (preferably he would be another football assistant). Otherwise, you should stay as the header for track. CC is right. You either have speed or you chase it.
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Post by phantom on Apr 24, 2010 15:59:26 GMT -6
Coaches I'm looking for some input & advice regarding my current situation. Currently I'm the varsity DC and our Boys Head Track Coach. It is extremely likely that in the next year or two I will be our varsity HC. In track I work with our sprinters. My primary motivation for taking on the track position was two fold. First, no one else would take it. Secondly, I though it would benefit our program by encouraging our WR/DB/LB kids to run track and be able to lift. I've enjoyed coaching track, but it is certainly not something that I have a passion for. I guess my question is, how much does this setup benefit our FB program? Every year I go back and forth with this, but am not sure. If it isn't something that's benefiting the program, then I would rather spend my time doing other things that could. So, any thoughts on whether this is helping our program? I don't know what track is like there but here it's time consuming. There are invitational meets every weekend, you have no spring break, and it limits your opportunity for clinics/visits. If you quit the school will not eliminate the track program. Somebody will continue to coach the sprinters. |
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Post by coachorr on Apr 24, 2010 16:08:10 GMT -6
Is track taking away from what you could otherwise be doing for yourself as a football coach? For example: Off Season program development, weight room supervision, spring football coordination (if you have one), attendance to clinics, attendance to Spring football practices at a local college and help with general burnout.
If you could see yourself doing any of these things over football and/or if you feel it is burning you out, then now is the time to look for another guy and you could possibly be the one to push kids in that direction.
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Post by gdf on Apr 25, 2010 17:45:22 GMT -6
I think there's certainly FB related activities/ideas I could be working on during this time. Unfortunately there's no one else in the FB program willing or qualified to take this over. My biggest concern, since we don't have a PE teacher on the FB staff, is that our kids who run track won't be allowed to lift. And since they don't get it during the school day they would only be getting speed work and no lifting during the season. That fear of our skill kids not lifting during track is why I still have this job. That and the fact I've always heard/believed that track & football complement each other.
So I guess the question is, is it worth it to coach track so that sprinter/FB players get to lift, or am I making to big a deal out of this and the sprinters who want to lift will find a way to do both?
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Post by coach6525 on Apr 26, 2010 9:53:36 GMT -6
Track and Football do go hand and hand IMO. Right now we have three of four track coaches are also football coaches. Myself being the OL/throwing coach and I have gotten more kids out to throw shot and disc, plus this also gets some of my less motivated kids in the weightroom everyday. For us it has been a win win situation. We are getting FB kids lifting and we have increased our numbers on the track team. Yes it is time consuming, but we still attend clinics and practices. The biggest down fall for me is being away from my kids on meet nights and not getting home until 10. We arer lucky we do not have any weekend meets, but two a week.
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Post by struceri on Apr 26, 2010 10:09:08 GMT -6
we have put an emphasis on getting our football players out for track the 4-5 years. Our HC and OC both coach track as well as a freshman coach. We have very successfull the last 3 years(3 state championships appearances, 1 title) and I think a big reason for that is the number of football kids in track. They still get their weightlifting done after practice. If it wasn't for track I don't think we would be where we are today.
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Post by phantom on Apr 26, 2010 10:31:55 GMT -6
I think there's certainly FB related activities/ideas I could be working on during this time. Unfortunately there's no one else in the FB program willing or qualified to take this over. My biggest concern, since we don't have a PE teacher on the FB staff, is that our kids who run track won't be allowed to lift. And since they don't get it during the school day they would only be getting speed work and no lifting during the season. That fear of our skill kids not lifting during track is why I still have this job. That and the fact I've always heard/believed that track & football complement each other. So I guess the question is, is it worth it to coach track so that sprinter/FB players get to lift, or am I making to big a deal out of this and the sprinters who want to lift will find a way to do both? If you don't want to coach track then stop coaching track. Where does it say that everything that you do 24/7/365 has to be to help the team? Let one of the other coaches do it. If the HC thinks its that important let him do it. Don't feel guilty about having a life in the offseason. |
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Post by sandstorm on Apr 26, 2010 10:35:57 GMT -6
In Texas, this is kind of an "unwritten law" among many of the successful schools:
If you are going to play football, you are going to run track. You might not go to the meets, but you WILL go through the workouts. Everybody!
If you are going to play football, you are going to powerlift. You might not go to the meets, but you WILL go through the workouts. Everybody!
Track - Speed improvement.
Powerlifting - Strength Improvement
Speed improvement + Strength improvement = Improved Football players
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Post by k on Apr 27, 2010 6:04:24 GMT -6
In Texas, this is kind of an "unwritten law" among many of the successful schools: If you are going to play football, you are going to run track. You might not go to the meets, but you WILL go through the workouts. Everybody! If you are going to play football, you are going to powerlift. You might not go to the meets, but you WILL go through the workouts. Everybody! Track - Speed improvement. Powerlifting - Strength Improvement Speed improvement + Strength improvement = Improved Football players So successful football programs don't include kids whose first sport is baseball or basketball? We'd lose half our starters if that was the case... |
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Post by sandstorm on Apr 27, 2010 7:56:26 GMT -6
In Texas, this is kind of an "unwritten law" among many of the successful schools: If you are going to play football, you are going to run track. You might not go to the meets, but you WILL go through the workouts. Everybody! If you are going to play football, you are going to powerlift. You might not go to the meets, but you WILL go through the workouts. Everybody! Track - Speed improvement. Powerlifting - Strength Improvement Speed improvement + Strength improvement = Improved Football players So successful football programs don't include kids whose first sport is baseball or basketball? We'd lose half our starters if that was the case... They do include those kids, but during the athletic period they will go through off-season training. The track kids who play baseball go to baseball practice after their track workout (which is 30-45 min). It's not about keeping the kids from playing other sprts, it's about improving the kids so that they can be the best that they can be. Last time I checked, weight training and speed training helps every sport. |
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Post by blb on Apr 27, 2010 8:15:03 GMT -6
Texas is the exception rather than the rule.
In most states, HS do not have "athletic periods." Many are lucky to be able just to incorporate strength training classes into PE curriculum.
Outside of the South, spring football is virtually unheard of.
And many schools cannot or will not "share" athletes in the spring, i.e. playing baseball and running track simultaneously.
So long as they're not vegetating and working out when they can - in a lot of situations, that's the best coaches can do.
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Post by calicoachh on Apr 27, 2010 21:19:21 GMT -6
i am the head football coach and an assistant track coach. i coach the throwers, but i encourage all of the football players to play a spring sport. If you are geed enough to make the golf team, then go do it, it will help you be a better football player, and if you are not good enough to make any other spring team, we never cut anyone from the track team, and none of my players can tell me that they are fast enough!
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