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Post by td4tc on Apr 18, 2010 14:06:16 GMT -6
many are attending clinics at this time and you often hear a coach or speaker say "if you can take just one thing away from this clinic it would be........."
we just got back from the Irish spring clinic and the pearl for me would be DB coach Chuck Martin's #1 team goal.. He coaches his kids that their number one goal should be "Be a Great Teammate". he went into depth about how this is better than "stats goals" and really encompasses everything. great speaker.
any others you could share from any clinics you attended?? from X's and O's to drills to philosophy??
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Post by kylem56 on Apr 18, 2010 19:20:05 GMT -6
td4tc, I agree Chuck Martin gave a great talk on Friday. He gave a similar talk at a mega clinic a couple years ago. One thing I took away from his talk was :
Don't overexaggerate things to your players. For example, before a game some coaches will go and say "were going to dominate them every play" blah blah trying to give a movie like pep talk. Also, don't say things like "we will not win if we turn the ball over" or we must do this or that etc. All you have to do is be 1 play better than the other team.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 18, 2010 19:37:44 GMT -6
Chuck Martin is awesome.
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Post by cc on Apr 19, 2010 8:14:51 GMT -6
Back in the day a Pearl of Wisdom we picked up that we still use came from Bruce Rollinson of Mater Dei (Cali) who said they do everything by the minute.
So practice stars at 331, not 330 ish. The emphasis is on being exact. Not close enough, but a very specific expectation.
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Post by lsrood on Apr 19, 2010 10:36:01 GMT -6
Picked up what I thought was a good one from Mike Conway D-Coordinator at California University of PA (D-II) at the Pittsburgh COY Clinic. He said they spend the most time defensively on Reads, Technique and Flying to the football than on worrying about adjusting to all the different formations and plays that they see week to week. He had some great pursuit drills they run as a team that start with everyone going through their reads, using proper technique and then flying to the ball with all 11 getting there. He said that by concentrating on reads and techniques, they were less likely to make bad adjustments and they concentrated getting to the ball and tackling, with a lot of emphasis on proper tackling.
With so many ofenses and formations/plays out there and only so much practice time, I found this to be a very interesting viewpoint.
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Post by lrader on Apr 19, 2010 10:49:24 GMT -6
"We all have the exact same ammount of time from now to the first friday night of the season. How well you schedule and use that time is up to you." -- Dave Bassore at Glazier clinic a few years ago.
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Post by oguru on Apr 19, 2010 10:59:19 GMT -6
I totally agree I laugh at people who think that they are going to a clinic and going to be able to install an offense or defense by listening to a coach who runs xyz offense for six hours.
At the school I am at know we always laugh when people want to come visit and learn our offense and think we will give them everything we do in one visit. I laugh even more as I am the guy who sits down with anyone who wants to visit and talk offense. Especially when they say teach us your entire offense.
When you do that you’re setting yourself and team up for failure.
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Post by phantom on Apr 19, 2010 11:04:08 GMT -6
At the Baltimore Glazier, NY Giants LB coach (former Michigan DC) Jim Hermann was talking about defensing the option. In doing so he talked about the importance of using an athlete as scout QB. The problem was getting the QB to take the snap. This was the solution:
The QB broke the huddle with the ball already in his hand. The center took a nerf ball to the line. The center snapped the nerf ball, just throwing it out of the way and the QB ran the play with the real ball.
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Post by blb on Apr 19, 2010 11:08:21 GMT -6
I totally agree I laugh at people who think that they are going to a clinic and going to be able to install an offense or defense by listening to a coach who runs xyz offense for six hours. At the school I am at know we always laugh when people want to come visit and learn our offense and think we will give them everything we do in one visit. I laugh even more as I am the guy who sits down with anyone who wants to visit and talk offense. Especially when they say teach us your entire offense. When you do that you’re setting yourself and team up for failure. Nice attitude - you "laugh" at peers, fellow professionals (giving you the benefit of the doubt) who come to you for help? |
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Post by jlenwood on Apr 19, 2010 11:44:47 GMT -6
This was from a d-line coach and it stuck with me: "What we don't coach, we allow to happen."
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Post by teachcoachwm on Apr 19, 2010 12:44:55 GMT -6
I was thinking the same way you were BLB......
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Post by oguru on Apr 19, 2010 13:17:33 GMT -6
I am not actually laughing at them. I am laughing at the idea of installing an entire offense from one campus visit or clinic. Thats what I am laughing at.
You can't learn an offensive, or defensive system from one campus visit or clinic you go to. That is what I am laughing about.
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Post by td4tc on Apr 19, 2010 15:50:31 GMT -6
phantom that's a beauty.going to use that for sure. but, what if the center snaps the nerf ball perfect? lol.
thought of one more thing from the notre dame clinic.Kelly was drilling his QB's (who were very ordinary ;D) on their drops.he was yelling "Get your left foot OUT".you can watch it on their website in the media section where he was miked up for practice. it is a subtle point but he feels if you get your left foot out front of you body on your drops you have a better base and can rocker step into the throw easier. it works for sure.he's a smart dude.think he does most of the QB coaching.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 19, 2010 18:27:39 GMT -6
I totally agree I laugh at people who think that they are going to a clinic and going to be able to install an offense or defense by listening to a coach who runs xyz offense for six hours. At the school I am at know we always laugh when people want to come visit and learn our offense and think we will give them everything we do in one visit. I laugh even more as I am the guy who sits down with anyone who wants to visit and talk offense. Especially when they say teach us your entire offense. When you do that you’re setting yourself and team up for failure. Nice attitude - you "laugh" at peers, fellow professionals (giving you the benefit of the doubt) who come to you for help? While oguru's word choice might not have been the most tactful, I also experienced what he is saying first hand. The underlying point he is expressing is true. Many of these "professionals" completely underestimate the precision to details required as well as the enormity of many offensive/defensive systems run at levels higher than high school. Heck, we disparage coaches on these boards for doing the same thing...looking for magic elixirs to lead them to victory. |
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Post by newhc on Apr 19, 2010 19:44:01 GMT -6
Mine this year was different. I have been having some staff problems and of course everyone said "Loyalty". But loyalty not meaning a yes man, but someone who you are close enough with to have conflict but that will not affect the relationship at all. Staff Loyalty must be an effort to maintain. If you don't see it, get ride of the person, before they get rid of you.
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Post by wingtol on Apr 19, 2010 19:53:30 GMT -6
Nice attitude - you "laugh" at peers, fellow professionals (giving you the benefit of the doubt) who come to you for help? While oguru's word choice might not have been the most tactful, I also experienced what he is saying first hand. The underlying point he is expressing is true. Many of these "professionals" completely underestimate the precision to details required as well as the enormity of many offensive/defensive systems run at levels higher than high school. Heck, we disparage coaches on these boards for doing the same thing...looking for magic elixirs to lead them to victory. Easy now he is a guru from one of the best programs in the nation. |
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Post by oguru on Apr 19, 2010 19:59:10 GMT -6
What I am simply saying is that it takes more than one weekend or campus visit to know everything about an offensive or defensive system. You are not going to learn it all in one visit or one clinic.
That’s all I am saying, when someone calls and says I want to bring my staff down and learn your offense on April 20th 2010 at ten o'clock. Well it is funny because it's just not going to happen in one day.
In a way you have to have a start to the offense and then go to clinics and campus visits to expand the system and see if what they are doing will fit into what your athletes can do.
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Post by Defcord on Apr 20, 2010 9:32:30 GMT -6
This was from a d-line coach and it stuck with me: "What we don't coach, we allow to happen." I agree Mike Leach said he tells his coaches..."You coach it or you allow it." I heard Bob Stoops say the same thing. Great point. Great quote! |
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Post by leighty on Apr 20, 2010 11:01:53 GMT -6
I saw Gunter Brewer speak at a clinic just after he had taken the passing game coordinator position at Oklahoma State. He was speaking on their trips package and the games you play with a defense out of the 3x1 alignment - working the numbers on the trips side vs. working single coverage on the open side.
He said, "Guys, you put your best receiver on the open side. If they can single cover your best receiver, you're in for a long day, because you're about to get your @$$ kicked."
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