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Post by dacoachmo on Apr 18, 2010 7:16:47 GMT -6
I have only been able to see bits a pieces, anyone out there find the whole program? It also got me thinking of how I training my QBs. Here is the first thing I tell them and it remains a common theme. The longer you hold the ball, the worse off as a QB you become. (in the pass game, of course  ) What do you tell your QBs? |
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Post by chadp56 on Apr 18, 2010 7:24:40 GMT -6
It was pretty entertaining. I liked that he picked their biggest weakness and hammered them on it. For McCoy, it was holding the ball too long. I have figured out the importance of developing a rhythm so to speak when going through the reads. It has to be yes or no (first read), yes or no (second read), yes or no (third read). There can be no maybes. After the third read you get on the move to scramble/run with the ball/throw it away.
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Post by cowboy50 on Apr 18, 2010 9:24:26 GMT -6
john gruden is the best thing to happen to espn in a long time.
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Post by dacoachmo on Apr 18, 2010 9:27:52 GMT -6
john gruden is the best thing to happen to espn in a long time. DITTO!!!!!!! |
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Post by spreadattack on Apr 18, 2010 10:01:07 GMT -6
I thought it was great (and was why I put it on my site). I will say that Gruden should focus on more of these segments as his on screen persona can get a little wearisome (a lot of the same stuff over and over). BTW I really liked that Tebow "quick release" drill, and I do think Tebow's motion is looking much smoother.
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Post by hoosier on Apr 18, 2010 11:16:40 GMT -6
john gruden is the best thing to happen to espn in a long time. agreed i saw all 4 segments. my favorite was probably with McCoy when Gruden was making fun of his accent. "do you yoddle?" LOL Tebow seemed a bit nervous on the interview, im thinking he has some "stock answers" that he gives to certain teams questions, probably without thinking about them too much. like when JG says... Gruden - "if i draft you, what am i getting?" Tim - "i got a question before that, do you want me on your team?" Gruden - "i drafted you....yea"  |
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Post by spreadattack on Apr 18, 2010 12:37:45 GMT -6
Gruden - "if i draft you, what am i getting?" Tim - "i got a question before that, do you want me on your team?" Gruden - "i drafted you....yea" Yeah that was definitely a weird answer. But Tebow always comes across as a little too earnest. That's kind of the thing with him: at first he comes across like he's trying to hard, but then you realize that's just totally who the kid is, through and through, and it makes sense again. Explains why so many people love him and so many got sick of hearing about him. But even that weird answer was another reason I liked the QB school stuff, is because the players seemed to act around Gruden like they would around their coach. Some of these guys have gotten so good at talking to the Erin Andrews types which is fine, but I want to know how they act around a coach, and Gruden commanded that respect and those are the kinds of answers you got. |
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Post by wolfden12 on Apr 18, 2010 13:30:06 GMT -6
I thought it was a great thing for ESPN to do. Adds a little change to the pre draft coverage that can get redundant, Gruden is classic. His football knowledge and persona is incrediable.
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Post by td4tc on Apr 18, 2010 13:53:08 GMT -6
like dacoachmo, i would like to see the whole program but from the excerpts i saw i would want to coach Colt McCoy. thought he came across great. heard he was amazing in his pro day for accuracy..took the chirps by Gruden in stride.more humble than Clausen for sure.
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Post by Yash on Apr 18, 2010 14:58:46 GMT -6
I thought it was great! I like how Gruden had his own combine jersey on when he was working with Tebow. Overall I thought it was great to see someone going face to face with pro prospects and grilling them on their weaknesses instead of showing highlight tape against Temple. I love how he asked Sam Bradford if he had played in a rainy game before. and he said yeah my freshman year against Chattanooga and Gruden says "Chattanooga? They aint on the schedule next year."
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Post by darebelcoach on Apr 18, 2010 15:07:54 GMT -6
Agree with what everyone has said. Gruden brings a lot to ESPN and I think a lot the QBs he talked to. My favorite part was during the Clausen segment when Gruden asked Clausen about the ND leprachaun. Told Clausen that he (Gruden) would love for that to be his next job. Haaaa
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Apr 18, 2010 17:22:21 GMT -6
A friend of mine who coaches in Tampa coaches John Gruden's son. Coach Gruden is always on his sidelines with him.
Talk about pressure, I'd be a nervous wreck, but this guy takes it in stride and actually seems to enjoy it.
Coach Gruden was working with Tebow at his school a month or so ago, I guess Gruden was working on this project as that time.
Tebow shut the school down, here in Florida he is a superstar.
I hear all kinda' stuff that doesn't make the sports news.
OJW
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Post by Wingtman on Apr 19, 2010 9:08:36 GMT -6
How long till Gruden get another gig on sidelines?
I love him on ESPN, but I thought he would have been all over Notre Dame this last year or maybe even USC or Tennesee.
I guess hes waiting for the right NFL job to open? A team thats already a contender and just needs a little push.
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Post by coachbilderback on Apr 19, 2010 10:33:11 GMT -6
they aired the whole segment in an hour long program... it was awesome
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Post by phantom on Apr 19, 2010 10:48:02 GMT -6
This just struck me as funny: Gruden was just being interviewed by Colin Cowherd, who asked him about the "Do you yodel?". As he was explaining the importance of communication in the huddle, Gruden's cell phone cut out and his message was garbled. He just said that all of the interviews are on the ESPN web site. Here they are: sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/columns/story?id=5033690 |
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Post by dacoachmo on Apr 19, 2010 16:56:57 GMT -6
This just struck me as funny: Gruden was just being interviewed by Colin Cowherd, who asked him about the "Do you yodel?". As he was explaining the importance of communication in the huddle, Gruden's cell phone cut out and his message was garbled. He just said that all of the interviews are on the ESPN web site. Here they are: sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/columns/story?id=5033690FRAK. only have @ 5 minutes of each... |
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Post by coachbrown3 on Apr 19, 2010 17:03:29 GMT -6
I was never a big fan of "Chuckie" before, but ever since he started at ESPN, I've become a fan. He's obviously very knowledgeable and passionate, but what I didn't see when he was coaching is his ability to relate & communicate. The QB school does wonders for his personality. Gruden is as sharp as they come and you could tell the QB's were a little bit nervous around him.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Apr 19, 2010 17:15:22 GMT -6
Some issues at the Bucs got rid of him. Some of it was his making some of it was the Glazier's lack of cash. Well lack of cash for "American" football that is.
His people skills were great when he was winning, not as acceptable when he was losing. But he is way ahead of the group they've got there now.
He is a very bright man for sure. He's making a lot of money not having to coach right now. He is also a big family man, I've seen that one personally.
OJW
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Post by gdn56 on Apr 19, 2010 18:31:49 GMT -6
I loved the segment and echo the argument that he actually brings a great mixture of legitimacy and entertainment to ESPN. I am usually very critical of broadcasters, but Chuckie gets it done. I honestly feel like if he stays in broadcasting instead of going back to the league, he may actually be a John Madden type broadcast legend.
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Post by tye2021 on Apr 19, 2010 20:05:30 GMT -6
Well i wouldnt count on it....he has been seen at as many clinics as hookers have been with tiger. Wow! Seriously? |
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Post by CoachFetty on Apr 20, 2010 0:39:09 GMT -6
I enjoyed it very much.
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Post by cc on Apr 20, 2010 8:57:31 GMT -6
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Post by Wingtman on Apr 20, 2010 10:30:50 GMT -6
He still a young guy right (early 40s?)...I could see him returning in 2011-2012 season have a small run then back to the booth.
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Post by blb on Apr 20, 2010 10:40:51 GMT -6
Gruden will be 47 this season. I'll be surprised if he doesn't coach in The League again.
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Post by leighty on Apr 20, 2010 13:10:54 GMT -6
more humble than Clausen for sure. What exactly did Clausen do during his portion of the program to make you believe he isn't humble? |
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Post by leighty on Apr 20, 2010 13:11:49 GMT -6
BTW, that room gruden "rented" or is renting, and I dont mean to be vile, but that gave me a hard on. I only hope one day I can have a room with that much tape in it. If i had to guess, I'd say that was a room in his house. There was a framed University of Dayton jersey on the wall. |
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Post by leighty on Apr 20, 2010 14:56:33 GMT -6
he said he paid 800 bucks for it. I am just taking him at his word. I must have missed that part, because I have no idea what you're talking about. Could he have been talking about the TV, the other contents of the room? |
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Post by illiniwek on Apr 20, 2010 18:39:19 GMT -6
Loved the show and gained a new found respect for Gruden. He got answers out of the players that very few people could.
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Post by CoachEV on Apr 20, 2010 18:48:10 GMT -6
watched the longer versions on youtube, but wish i could see the whole thing...
that has got to be intimidating to sit with him like that... he is so direct, and at times you can tell those guys dont know his approach and are almost scared to say something... great stuff... hope they make this a continuous thing for next draft as well...
i would like to see some other coaches come in and break down different positions... but it has to be a gruden type, i cant take a tony dungy interview with those guys lol id fall sleep...
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Post by coachcb on Apr 21, 2010 11:30:28 GMT -6
IMO, if we see Gruden coaching again, it'll be at the college level. He was a h-lluva NFL coach but had a hard time dealing with the 'prima donna' attitudes on his teams. He'd be fantastic at the college level; his experience and his demeanor are perfect for it. There will still be bad attitudes, but it's a whole lot easier to cut a kid's scholarship than to can an NFL athlete.
I think he's a lot like Saban; very dominating personality that demands very, very high standards from his players. Saban has had more success at the college level than with the pros because of this.
I'm a Bucs fan and I guarantee you that the program is kicking itself for getting rid of him at this point....
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