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Post by dhooper on Apr 7, 2010 11:29:30 GMT -6
How many of you head coaches call your plays from the box? Offense or defense (head coach in the box)
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Post by airmale on Apr 7, 2010 12:02:53 GMT -6
My HC tried that last year. He appointed me to be his rep on the field. Officials OK'd it. THen when I had a question, they refused to speak to me and threatened me with a personal foul if I spoke to them again. I was just relaying info from HC. He had to come down mid-2nd 1/4.
When I was HC I was always on the field and called the O.
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Post by fbcoach74 on Apr 7, 2010 12:27:25 GMT -6
I think a Head coach needs to be on the field. I believe that a Head coach is responsible for managing players and how can you do that in the box. If you call plays then make sure you have an assistant that can relay the info you need to call the right plays.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 7, 2010 12:44:44 GMT -6
I too think a HC needs to be on a field.
I've only known of 2 HCs who have tried being in the booth. Both teams were prett bad. Not saying that's the reason why, but it's an interesting component perhaps.
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Post by cqmiller on Apr 7, 2010 12:52:28 GMT -6
I am a firm believer that the OC has to be removed from the emotion and up in the box, while the defense is much more of an emotion-based and "feeling", which you can only get down on the field. Of course if the HC is a coordinator, he has to be on the field. Better find someone you COMPLETELY trust up there in the booth.
OC - In Booth DC - On Field
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Post by blb on Apr 7, 2010 12:55:33 GMT -6
Darrell "Dr. Victory" Mudra coached from the press box.
Was head coach at several schools, including Arizona and Florida State. Finished his career at Northern Iowa. Won two small college national championships, 71% of his games, and is in CFB HOF.
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Post by dhooper on Apr 7, 2010 13:06:01 GMT -6
I watch film and the view is nice from the box. I don't think I could do it but it sure crosses my mind a lot. I call the offense and we're a no huddle team and with the high view it would make it easy. It would be hard not to be on the side line. How many of you head coaches are the offensive coordinator?
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Post by tim914790 on Apr 7, 2010 17:08:19 GMT -6
I cant imagine the HC being in the box. Ideally th eHC doesnt call the Offense, the view from the box is unbeatable. If you have an inexperienced staff like I did when I was HC I called it from the field after being OC and calling it from the box for 6 years. It was a huge adjustent but worked ok. I had to put in extra time with my eyes in the sky on exactly what to look for as he was very inexperienced.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 7, 2010 17:53:31 GMT -6
I hate being in the box. It bores me to death.
Have only been up there two seasons. Hated it.
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Post by bleefb on Apr 7, 2010 20:25:56 GMT -6
I'm a Head Coach and I call the offense from the box, done it for 7 years now. It mainly comes from many years before as an OC in the booth, so I'm very comfortable up there. I wouldn't do it if I didn't have a veteran assistant on the sideline to handle things. Be prepared for controversy if you try it. I never hear about it when we have a good year, but if we have a down year parents will grumble about it. Fortunately, we've had more good years than bad.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Apr 7, 2010 21:43:05 GMT -6
This was at the middle school level. We had a head coach, who was on his third different stint with us, go into the box for a season. He didn't coach the next (like I said, third stint, kind of unpredictable), or he would've continued to go into the box I assume. He had me running the defense for the third season and the OC on his second. We had been successful without him for a season, and he thought we could really benefit from his experience in the box. It worked out pretty well. I didn't hear about any parent grumblings, we were mediocre (3-3).
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Post by hlb2 on Apr 8, 2010 5:17:18 GMT -6
No way I could do it, I call O, and D, HAVE to be on the field. I agree the HC's main job is managing the players.
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Post by knash on Apr 8, 2010 7:54:33 GMT -6
No way I could do it, I call O, and D, HAVE to be on the field. I agree the HC's main job is managing the players. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I'm kinda curious. How big is your school? How do you find time to gameplan both the offense and the defense? What is your reasoning behind calling both? I'm asking because I'm thinking about trying to find a small school job, and I am wondering if its possible to do both successfully at a small school.
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Post by alneufeld on Apr 8, 2010 9:35:28 GMT -6
I am head coach and the DC - there is no bloody way that I would be in the box. I need to deal with the emotional and motivational aspects of the game. Plus, I'm a pacer on the sidelines and I would explode if I had to sit still in the box!
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Post by dhooper on Apr 8, 2010 11:22:06 GMT -6
knash I only call the Offense now. I have a defensive coordinator that I trust. We our a 4A school but when I was at a smaller school I have had to call both sides. I think a defensive coordinator has to be on the side line for the emotion it takes. When I was at a smaller school I didn't have a lot of help so I had to do a lot more work.
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Post by coachguy83 on Apr 8, 2010 11:42:51 GMT -6
I have a friend that served as both HC & OC and coached from the box. He was able to do it because he had an assistant that he trusted to take care of things on the field. I understand the desire to be in the box as an OC, but I know as a HC I want to be on the field. I think the HC has to be the one that controls the motivation and emotions of his team and you cannot do that from the box, no matter how great of an assistant that you have.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Apr 8, 2010 21:50:21 GMT -6
Plus if you're the HC and you're in the box, parents can just turn around and b!tch at you, at least on the field you can act like you don't hear them. I'd say most of us are pretty good at that one regardless.
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Post by ramsoc on Apr 9, 2010 19:41:37 GMT -6
I am a firm believer that the OC has to be removed from the emotion and up in the box, while the defense is much more of an emotion-based and "feeling", which you can only get down on the field. Of course if the HC is a coordinator, he has to be on the field. Better find someone you COMPLETELY trust up there in the booth. OC - In Booth DC - On Field As an OC, I tried to be up in the box. Couldn't do it. I was so disconnected from the game being up there. Couldn't get a feel from the defense, couldn't talk to my QB or anyone else if I had special instructions.
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Post by ramsoc on Apr 9, 2010 19:56:52 GMT -6
No way I could do it, I call O, and D, HAVE to be on the field. I agree the HC's main job is managing the players. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I'm kinda curious. How big is your school? How do you find time to gameplan both the offense and the defense? What is your reasoning behind calling both? I'm asking because I'm thinking about trying to find a small school job, and I am wondering if its possible to do both successfully at a small school. Done both. When I did it was at a school of around 1000. Had two other coaches that were good at their positions, but didn't have it yet to be coordinators. This past season at another school, even though I had a DC, I did the defensive game plan. He's really my DC in training, he called the defense during games. This season, he'll do more of the planning.
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