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Post by mental311 on Feb 9, 2010 13:37:41 GMT -6
We would decide as a staff how to split up. Ultimately the head coach had final say, but most of our meetings went well to deciding who will go where and then re-teach what they learned. I'd say this is prototype... Staff decisions and a reteach session... Good stuff.
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Post by cnunley on Feb 9, 2010 13:44:05 GMT -6
Going to the Glazier Clinic in Charlotte this weekend.
I've told the HC what I'd like to see and he either says, "Sounds good" or "well, how about during this time segment you see this one instead".
Works well for us and the staff. Always a little Give and Take.
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Post by wolfden12 on Feb 9, 2010 13:59:07 GMT -6
Communication is a key item in this profession. Use it effectively and both parties can be happy and successsful.
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Post by wolfden12 on Feb 9, 2010 13:59:22 GMT -6
Communication is a key item in this profession. Use it effectively and both parties can be happy and successsful.
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Post by CoachCP on Feb 9, 2010 15:49:55 GMT -6
If there is something you really want to see at a session time, ask if you can switch with the person that has it or let the coach know ahead of time - do some research. If he knows you are passionate about some subject, I'm sure he'll let you do if it its reasonable.
The only time this policy upset me was last year. I went to a talk on the spread offense. I "learned" about the flexbone spread, from a guy who was there only because his school was hosting it. He did a terrible job "teaching" it and really showed nothing but the basics. Perhaps the worst talk I have been too. And I'm interested in the flexbone too! Gosh, that was awful. Our coach wasn't too happy because he wanted some running stuff for the shotgun spread, but he sent me to it, what was I supposed to do?
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Post by schenk11 on Feb 10, 2010 7:26:28 GMT -6
Our head coach gives us each one session he want us to attend based on a weakness in the program, something we are looking at changing to, etc. Then we are free for the rest of the clinic to attend what we want.
And we have to copy our notes and turn them in.
He pays for our fees and hotel and food though.
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Post by dirtybird13 on Feb 10, 2010 12:34:23 GMT -6
I am part of a staff where one other coach and I are the younger members of a very experienced staff. Whereas everyone else seems ready to pick and choose what they attend, we are hungry to make it to whatever we can. I tend to try and go towards speakers that will benefit me in the short term (IE talks that relate either to my position, concepts that our offense applies, or attacking defenses that we see commonly) whereas my comrade enjoys attending drills with the future in mind (general program development, aspects of boths sides of the ball, and teams focus.) The thing I think I am most fortunate about is that he and I have already shown a willingness to share anything/discuss any aspect. Not to say that our staff isn't willing to help either of us out, quite the opposite actually, rather members of our staff are the type to speak at clinics rather than take notes.
I would strongly recommend to any Coach getting their start to find a comrade like that, whether within their staff or without (obviously there would be amounts of discretion involved with someone not on staff.) If you are sharing and comparing notes from different speakers, possibly even different clinics... twice the knowledge to gain.
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Post by kahok on Feb 10, 2010 14:50:07 GMT -6
I've never in my life heard of someone having to turn in notes to their head coach. I've also never been to a clinic where the most knowledge was gained at a specific talk. In my experiences, the most knowledge is gained after the talks. Over food AND beer. Someone said it earlier, if you are looking to improve greatly, go visit a college that runs similar stuff to you during the spring. I use the clinics to see old friends/teammates/coaches etc. Very rarely have I attended a session and left going "WOW, that was amazing!!" Only guy who really blew me away was Rick Trickett, OUTSTANDING speaker if you ever have the chance to listen to him.
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Post by ramsoc on Feb 10, 2010 20:59:09 GMT -6
I just decided last night where my guys would be going for this weekends Glazier in Santa Clara. For my young bucks, I have them going to speakers that focus on their position groups or area of interest (ie WR coach, WR drills & passing schemes). For myself and my more experienced coaches, we're going to some that are within our area and then some that branch out into areas where we could grow and get more well rounded.
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Post by Wingtman on Feb 11, 2010 8:58:21 GMT -6
At my last school, when we went to clinics we:
A. Attended the first nights sessions, then partied like rock stars. B. Met in the lobby at 7:30 for a staff breakfast went to morning sessions then lunch, followed by our own planning meetings that lasted for about 4 hours. C. Late afternoon we went to whatever session we wanted. Dinner..parited like rock stars D. Had breakfast as a staff caught the 8am session and went home.
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Post by coachkill22 on Feb 11, 2010 10:21:59 GMT -6
Our HC has told us which ones to attend based on our team needs. We are planning to change our defense this year and he wants us to sit in on that topic. I think its a good idea for all of us to hear what they have to say and all get on the same page. Other than that, it is up to us. I would suggest attending something about the position you will be coaching.
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Post by bgj on Feb 11, 2010 20:54:47 GMT -6
We've already met as a staff to discuss things we want to research for the spring. Each guy has their own questions to answer and report back. After that they can go to what they want. Communication is the recurring theme here.
I have several guys on staff that football is not their first sport so I tell them to want them to go to certain ones, just to learn the game.
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Post by coachcb on Feb 12, 2010 7:13:58 GMT -6
In the space if a clinic weekend, there are more than a few sessions to attend. Hit the one the HC wants and then go to the others that interest you.
I imagine he's doing this for two reasons;
1. The help the program in the way he sees fit; it's his job. 2. Making sure that coaches are getting something out of the clinic. I have gone to clinics and seen coaches from other staffs hit one session and then spend the rest of the weekend falling down drunk.
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Post by nexthc on Feb 12, 2010 7:47:03 GMT -6
Our HC gives us the choice to go to what ever we want to go see. Now, if there is something out there that he thinks might be interesting for a particular coach to go see, then he will suggest that coach to go see that speaker/topic.
I am the DC and I e-mail my defensive staff the list of speakers and we communicate thru e-mail what each other is going to see. We will for the most part see different speaker and then in the evening, while have a few adult beverages, talk about what we saw and learned on that particular day. Now, if I feel that there is a speaker/topic that we all need to see, then I will suggest that we all go.
For the most part, we have no problems as to who is going where. Communication is the key.
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Post by dread on Feb 14, 2010 16:15:31 GMT -6
Where I live, we have no clinics at ALL. Anyone of our coaches would be very happy to attend a clinic that would be held. I became a Head Coach "by accident" and realise that, no matter what position you coach, you have to know about all the aspects of the game.
I look at coaching in the sence that you are graduated in football (or like me, still studying to be one) and only specialised in the area you coach.
On that note, I do have add that open communication is everything. The Mr Myagi approach is only for the movies, if they re sending you to a clinic they should give you an explanation why you have to go to that clinic.
"Because we don t have enough people and it s a important clinic for your other coach" IS a good reason in my point of view.
But of course I m only viewing it from a HC point of view.
My two cents.
Grtz
The Rookie (head)coach
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Post by lochness on Feb 15, 2010 13:26:42 GMT -6
The HC is the "manager" of the football staff. As such, it is his responsibility to make sure the assistants are prepared going into each season. He is responsibile for the development of the coaches under him.
We don't need Johnny Newguy going to "Making Friends and Influencing People with the Spread Offense" if we're not running that type of offense, for example. We need Johnny Newguy going to the OL Techniques and Drills clinic because that's going to be his area of responsibility.
Another thing we tell our assistants is don't come out of a clinic and say "WOW, THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS NEXT YEAR!!!!!" We tell them to pick up relevant information and "nuggets" that we can apply to improving what we already do. I don't need 101 blitzes from the 4-2-5 handed to me on a napkin if we're a 3-4 Zone team. Pick up some concepts or some techniques that might apply to our situation and let's talk about that.
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Post by illiniwek on Feb 16, 2010 21:40:40 GMT -6
Just curious if it is out of the norm for Head Coaches in splitting up the staff at a coaching clinic at telling you what sessions you have to go to. Also taking detailed notes and copying them and turning them into him upon return to from the clinic. I understand the idea...but it would be nice to have a little more freedom in choosing what speakers you would like to see. I had to sit and listen to a guy last weekend for 3 hours speaking on the 12 variations of combo coverages and he did the whole clinic on transparency with no cutups! I am just now getting back feeling in my hand. Not telling you anything new, but yeah, that's pretty standard stuff. Might seem like he's micromanaging, but if HC's don't do that, you can spend an entire weekend at a clinic and really not accomplish much.
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Post by coachriley on Feb 18, 2010 20:19:32 GMT -6
Im still a young coach, but when i am at clinic, I go to damn near every session if I can help it. The only time I miss a session is if im starving on saturday night and its the last one, or its a topic or speaker I know I dont want to hear. I basically campout the whole time in the lecture hall. Of course, that is just me and I want to learn as much as I can about everything I can. I guess me not being on staff right now helps with not being told what to do lol
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Post by pcollett on Feb 19, 2010 16:34:15 GMT -6
As head coach I usually say, "I would like for you to go see this guy and that guy, the rest is up to you." Afterwards I'll just ask how it was, did they get anything we can use? Works fine.
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