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Post by julien on Feb 2, 2010 1:11:55 GMT -6
I do not want to hijacked TDmaker's thread so here I am...
Last sunday we were up 18-00 in the middle of the 4th quarter. Back up FB is in. He blows his assignement, resulting on a fumble (we keep the ball). I benched him for the remaining of the game.
Next offensive serie: back up QB is in. He fumbles the snap. Lost fumble. I benched him for the game.
DC told me in the bus back home that I have been may be too hard on them.
What do you think?
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Post by tiger46 on Feb 2, 2010 2:12:54 GMT -6
All players should be held accountable no matter what their position is on the depth chart. However, I realize that I can't expect to reasonably rely on players in a game if I don't let them play the game.
If it was already the middle of the 4th quarter then it was probably too late in the game to bench them for awhile and then let them have another chance. But, that's probably what I'd have tried to do..... right after I'd given them a world class a$$-chewing about ball security.
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Post by ozcoach on Feb 2, 2010 2:17:01 GMT -6
Did you have a better viable option at these positions? What were the circumstances of the error? Any prior history with these players to consider?
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Post by julien on Feb 2, 2010 4:27:44 GMT -6
Did you have a better viable option at these positions? What were the circumstances of the error? Any prior history with these players to consider? He was our 3rd string back... And he probably miss an assignement each practice. I'm kinda tired of this kid. Ball security is always a concern for my back up QB... |
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Post by steelbuns on Feb 2, 2010 4:41:49 GMT -6
Tough decision, I don't think there is a "right" or "wrong" answer possible.
On one hand you need to make a statement to the team that errors like this won't be tolerated, no matter what the scoreboard says.
On the other hand players need playing time to overcome nervouseness that results in errors like these.
I'd propably reacted the same way and explained my decision later to the team.
Cheers
Marc
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Post by touchdownmaker on Feb 2, 2010 6:26:10 GMT -6
Do you bench the starters for mistakes? If not, sounds like a copout to run up score in a way.
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Post by ozcoach on Feb 2, 2010 6:40:13 GMT -6
I guess if he has assignment issues in practice you need to address them then.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 2, 2010 6:59:48 GMT -6
I think that as long as it has been established (at practice or prior to the game) that fumbling will result in you getting yanked I can't see a problem with it.
I had a similar situation 3 years ago. I had my best senior athlete at RB during the 2nd game of the season. We ran belly and he fumbled in open space but we recovered. We kept him in the game. Next play was waggle- he caught the ball in the flat, turned upfield, and got hit- fumbled again, and we recovered it again. He was yanked, never saw another play at RB. I had established that ball security and missed assignments will result in getting yanked.
So we sat him, let his back up play, and the backup earned 2nd team all-conference that year.
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Post by julien on Feb 2, 2010 11:55:31 GMT -6
Do you bench the starters for mistakes? If not, sounds like a copout to run up score in a way. In this game starters haven't miss an assigment... But I know what you mean. |
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Post by julien on Feb 2, 2010 13:18:14 GMT -6
Seems to me, those 2 kids didn't fumble on purpose. Seems to me, what you see is what you coached. Perhaps you should do more ball security drills in practice. Doesn't matter if you were right or wrong, what's done is done, you can't unbench them 2 days later. You're right. I have to remember that sentence: "what you see is what you coached" |
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Post by warriorhog51 on Feb 2, 2010 15:16:17 GMT -6
This is kind of a sticky situation to me. YES, they made critical mistakes and they need to understand that it not acceptable. Should they have been benched the rest of the game? I'm not so sure about that. Personally, I probably wouldn't have done that unless there were other critical mistakes. I might have benched them for the rest of the series, but I would have given them the chance to show me they could do it right in the game. If they mess up again, then they might be done for a while longer.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 2, 2010 22:00:25 GMT -6
But if you bench him, and his back up plays well, how can you justify putting the 1st stringer back in? What do we do then?
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Post by scottc on Feb 2, 2010 22:18:23 GMT -6
My biggest pet peeve is when reserves or benches are emptied and then they are allowed to be sloppy. I tell my staff that we are going to coach them up just like we would the one's. It's not funny or cute when they cant line up or dont know what to do. Matter of fact many times to me this is a sign of a well coached team.
If its 2 minutes to go and we are up 50 we are going to coach our guys up for the game experience for when they become one's one day. So I commend you on the accountability with those guys.
However.
I do not bench a kid after one fumble [but I am open to an each their own theory] or a missed assignment because I know I may need that kid down the road [confidence]. I dont fire kids after one screw up either. To me it seems that this gets them playing "not to screw up" etc. instead of balls to the walls. Pretty much its like if I had a son who spilled the milk in the floor. Its not like he did it on purpose so lets correct the behavior and move on. If the it becomes a pattern of behavior then we need to take stronger action. We correct when they come to the sideline and sometimes its not always the Dr Phil approach either. They too need to catch a chewing at times at well like the starters do.
To each their own. Just my two cents on this.
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