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Post by staringfrog on Jan 27, 2010 22:13:24 GMT -6
How do you do it at school with none? No connection with school, facilities, fellow-students, etc. Thoughts?
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Post by touchdowng on Jan 27, 2010 22:18:21 GMT -6
Hard work will instill pride
Taking time to affirm progress will instill pride
Doing things right and not cutting corners will instill pride
Not much secret sauce or ferry dust here.
The type of pride needed to sustain success is the kind that is achieved through action and good works
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jan 28, 2010 4:25:52 GMT -6
Hard work that gets results. That brings about pride. You can be proud when you win even if you didnt work hard, ie when youre more talented than the other guys and whip em.
But real pride comes from busting your hump and working to make yourself so much better..."the harder we work, the harder it is to surrender" never rang so true ...last summer our wt room was closed all summer due to renovations...wasnt a great season.
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Post by JMC on Jan 28, 2010 7:09:31 GMT -6
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Post by realdawg on Jan 28, 2010 7:34:46 GMT -6
I think too, you have to start with younger kids that are not yet in your program. Have speed/agility/summer youth camps for middle school and elementary school kids. Not only can it serve as a fund raiser, but it will get younger kids involved in your program and make them want to be a whatever your nickname is. This will result in more pride in the program. Only problem is this approach takes time.
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Post by CoachEV on Jan 28, 2010 8:05:07 GMT -6
in my offensive system this is what i push most... PRIDE... i base my whole philosophy off pride, and actually have a "TEAM" P.R.I.D.E which is: Preparation Repetition Intelligence Dedication Execution...
then from there... i begin to focus on taking "P.R.I.D.E." in every play and each of the offensive groups have their own "P.R.I.D.E." checklist for every play from huddle to snap of ball... i like to teach it as a mind set, so that kids who dont have any influence from home in a positive manner can begin to understand and relate PRIDE to effort, heart, dedication, and all the other good "football words" that fit in there...
the biggest problem with my upcoming job as HC is that the town/county has lost its pride and belief in the football program, due to some seriously bad coaching and thus my entrance to the scene... so im trying to develop some ways as well to reach beyond this new team when i put in this system and take it to the corner stores and markets, to the wal-marts and such... to revive some "PRIDE" in the community...
its a tough thing to think about, a daunting task... but im up for it... thats for sure..
"E"
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Post by John Knight on Jan 28, 2010 8:48:02 GMT -6
as one of the coaches on this site has in his signature, you have to cut a lot of deadwood to let the tree grow properly or as I say you have to pull weeds to grow a good garden!
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Post by touchdowng on Jan 28, 2010 20:41:09 GMT -6
I think too, you have to start with younger kids that are not yet in your program. Have speed/agility/summer youth camps for middle school and elementary school kids. Not only can it serve as a fund raiser, but it will get younger kids involved in your program and make them want to be a whatever your nickname is. This will result in more pride in the program. Only problem is this approach takes time. This is a terrific idea but why wait? Realdawg is right with working with the younger kids but the PRIDE idea should touch everyone associated with the program. Little things such as coaches always wearing a program associated shirt when on the practice field, a coaching staff that dresses alike on game night just as their team does. These are small messages that silently tells players that everything matters. The sustained hard work that is instilled and performed is the nucleus for pride but pride can be demonstrated and instilled (such as with the youngsters) in every person related to your program. It has to be intentional and it has to be pointed out. |
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Post by coachinghopeful on Jan 29, 2010 0:38:21 GMT -6
There's a coach around here who turned around his once proud alma mater that had really fallen apart under a previous coach, and just went 0-10 under the 1-and-done guy who came after that. Once this coach took over, they never won fewer than 7 games or missed the playoffs over his 7 years there and they won their conferences 4 times. This past year they were a game away from state. This was at a fairly big suburban school and, while he had some good players (including a major stud of a QB who a nationally ranked recruit a few years ago), most of his players were slow white kids the college scouts didn't want. It wasn't just a case of magically getting "the athletes."
One of the things he did as soon as he took over was to invent some traditions, since his school lacked them. He came up with all kinds of stuff. He had the rising senior class get together to draft a football "Constitution" of expectations and responsibilities and promise to enforce it--each senior class to come after has also sworn an oath to uphold it and they take that stuff very seriously to this day. He also came up with a chant for the Seniors to lead at lunch on gameday that gets the student body fired up for football (kids work harder if they feel someone is noticing), etc. Then he just really preached conditioning and grueling work ethic as a point of pride among his kids.
As much as that helped, I believe the thing that really made the difference for him was simply winning. He got that team on a roll during his first season and that momentum really got people to take notice. That made the kids feel like they could do something special. Once they felt optimistic about their future, they really bought in and pushed each other to get better. Optimism + Responsibility = Pride
Pete Carroll says that one of the biggest things he tries to do is to give everyone on his team a role in which he can contribute. He found out that people work harder and do better when they know their efforts will have meaningful consequences. Just giving a hard working kid a small part to play, even if it's only blocking for the FG team a few times a game, will motivate him a lot more than having him sit on the bench and wait for someone (or maybe a few people) to get hurt.
One bit of advice I read about from Bo Schembechler was to privately meet with each and every player 1-on-1 in the spring after spring practice. Bo would talk to the kid about how he had done the past season and off season, what he needed to work on now, and lay out his goals and expectations for the kid before fall practice. Bo said this was one of the most important things he did, as it showed every single player that the HC had actually noticed his efforts and valued them.
Just knowing that someone else cares and that they're in this together can be very powerful motivators. Those are common threads I see through all the ideas I've outlined above.
Anyway, I hope this stuff helps coach. I've not gotten the chance to use any of it myself, but you can bet I look forward to the day when I can!
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Post by realdawg on Jan 29, 2010 6:09:04 GMT -6
touchdowng-I wasnt suggesting that you have to wait, just that that needed to be done along with some of the stuff that has been mentioned for the kids already in your program.
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Post by tango on Jan 29, 2010 8:23:39 GMT -6
Wear the same socks, shoes, under shirt, and work like heck.
T-shirts that are special. You must reach a goal to get that colored T-shirt. Ours are always gold.
As many Traditions as you can make.
The harder we work them in the summer the more pride we have in the fall.
Win ever week. I'm not talking about the score. I had a team that was terrible and we talked about winning 6 min. quarters and winning more than the future state champs. That gave us 8 quarters. 1. Tied 6-6 2. 21-0 them 3. 7-0 us 4. 14-0 them
5. 7-0 us 6. 0-0 7. 0-0 8. 3-0 us 41-9 but we played with heart and went on to have a great season the next year.
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Post by alneufeld on Jan 29, 2010 17:50:24 GMT -6
There has been some talk of building a tradition at your schools. What types of things go into building that tradition? Are you thinking of a "tradition of excellence" thing like the Raiders? Or more tangible things, like touching the rock at Clemson? I think traditions are more along the line of work ethic, preparation, and desire, but am I missing something here?
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Post by touchdowng on Jan 29, 2010 19:59:24 GMT -6
Lots of things can be included under the "umbrella" of traditions.
There can be ideas (work hard and make your success)
There can be actions (touching the statue of your mascot, or touching a sign like Notre Dame does)
There can be symbolism (waving a flag up and down a sideline after a TD).
There can be a history (of winning, of losing, of being competitive)
If you're looking to establish traditions (as it sounds there are none) - Pick some that can be sustained and give back to the program.
One of our traditions was to highlight what legacy the senior class was leaving the program - as it was developing. We'd talk about it during the season. "Hey, these seniors are the best group we've ever had at putting their practice time to good use." Build on that and make sure to mention it at your banquet. Once you've done this over time each upcoming class will find something positive to define themselves.
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Post by Coach Vint on Jan 29, 2010 20:40:09 GMT -6
We began by raising expectations. Not winning games, but asking players to take pride in everything they did. We put them onto teams of six. Each team had a captain who was responsible for his team's performance. We scored them on attendance in the classroom. They got points for weight room attendance and punctuality. They got points for improvement. They got points for leadership. Each week each team selected their pride player of the week who most exemplified what we stood for. Out of this group the coaches voted and the team that player came from got bonus points. When a team was punished only the captain ran. The captain was allowed to pick one other player to run with him. This made guys learn to be accountable to each other. While we were vocal we corrected mistakes by teaching kids how to do things right. The only time we were negative was from a lack of effort or a lack of accountability.
We also used a character education and leadership development program which helped greatly. I wish we had done more with traditions. I liked that in the first post. That can help to grow pride. We had them dress alike on the field. If anyone was out of uniform they were all going to be punished. We called these exercises reminders. If one kid had a wristband, they all had wristbands.
The most important thing to remember is that pride comes through effort and belief. This takes a tremendous amount of time from your coaches and players. You have to keep reminding them they can be better and they will be better, but they have to earn it.
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