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Post by husky44 on Jan 27, 2010 16:33:26 GMT -6
The situation I am in is getting a little old. I am the strength and conditioning coach/DC at our school and I am in the weightroom all winter and spring. The HC is in about half the week but does not coach the athletes while there, he usually gabs with others. I am not compensated for being there and working with the athletes or for putting together the weight program ( I have had extensive prior experience in this area having been a S & C in college). I know that if I don't do it nobody will and I want to help kids and win. The first year here (3 years ago), we won one game and this last year we had a winning record. Our kids are getting better but I am doing more work than the HC.
We have the money, he is always asking me what I want to buy and it appears that I have no limit. Is it fair to ask to be compensated? I want a good recommendation for the future because I am looking for a HC job and don't want to jeopardize this. It is taxing working for a guy that puts in less effort than you.
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Post by brophy on Jan 27, 2010 16:46:40 GMT -6
Compensated for the Summer, over and above your stipend? Or a stipend, period?
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Post by husky44 on Jan 27, 2010 17:05:01 GMT -6
I have developed all the weight programs for the guys sports and have not receive a dime for it. There is a stipend for someone to supervise the weightroom but in the winter the tennis coach gets it because he has been doing it for years even though he doesn't have a clue what he is doing in the weightroom. I finally convinced our district to create a summer school class for weight training and conditioning and I was compensated for that this last summer.
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Post by airman on Jan 27, 2010 17:39:15 GMT -6
i Cannot believe you are not compensated. who supervises the weight room if you would not be there?
we have a guy who runs the weight room year round. he gets 1500 per semester to open the weight room 4 days a week and manages situations which might arise. he is a great guy who loves weights. he workouts with the kids, spots and does stuff like that. we are lucky to have a guy who does not want to coach but likes the S&C part.
I would post the legal question to the ad and explain the situation.
I know in the states I have coached(il and wi) your coaching stipend covers the season but like you said someone has to do it so schools get free time from coaches.
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Post by husky44 on Jan 27, 2010 18:00:01 GMT -6
i Cannot believe you are not compensated. who supervises the weight room if you would not be there? we have a guy who runs the weight room year round. he gets 1500 per semester to open the weight room 4 days a week and manages situations which might arise. he is a great guy who loves weights. he workouts with the kids, spots and does stuff like that. we are lucky to have a guy who does not want to coach but likes the S&C part. I would post the legal question to the ad and explain the situation. I know in the states I have coached(il and wi) your coaching stipend covers the season but like you said someone has to do it so schools get free time from coaches. Unfortunately our weightroom is supervised in the winter and spring by guys who sit at the desk and don't work with the kids. We have a very poor AD who doesn't have a clue what is going on. |
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Post by seagull73 on Jan 27, 2010 18:20:56 GMT -6
My coaching staff and I supervise the weight-room in the spring and summer and get nothing. I am the HC and feel it is important for me to be there all the time but it is frustrating when all the coaches don't contribute in some way. As a HC it is hard for me to require coaches to be there because I have nothing to offer them as far as money goes. The guys who truly care about developing the program are there all the time.
The hardest part is explaining to your wife that you spending all this time away from home for no $$$.
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Post by airman on Jan 27, 2010 18:37:23 GMT -6
My coaching staff and I supervise the weight-room in the spring and summer and get nothing. I am the HC and feel it is important for me to be there all the time but it is frustrating when all the coaches don't contribute in some way. As a HC it is hard for me to require coaches to be there because I have nothing to offer them as far as money goes. The guys who truly care about developing the program are there all the time. The hardest part is explaining to your wife that you spending all this time away from home for no $$$. is it in the contract for you to supervise the Weight Room? I think a lot of schools just assume the football coach will do it. somes times a sitdown strike is the best way to go about getting ones point across. |
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Post by coachbiskits on Jan 28, 2010 9:38:23 GMT -6
We have no weight room so we don't have to staff anything. And our School Committee has a standing rule that Asst. coaches MAY NOT be compensated beyond their in-season stipend for football related activities, including thank-you "gifts" over $50 from the boosters. Love it.
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Post by lbbrandon on Jan 28, 2010 9:39:48 GMT -6
Not a lot of extra $ to dole out at our school, but our HC has never hesitated to buy his assistants T-shirts, coats, jackets, hats, etc. out of his own pocket to show his appreciation for your extra time. Money would always be nice, but at least you know your time in the offseason hasn't gone unnoticed. And who doesn't love a free T-shirt?
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Post by seagull73 on Jan 28, 2010 9:41:53 GMT -6
It is assumed that the football coaches will do it but I wont let another athlete from another team come in during my workouts. If it is important to their programs their coach would organize something. If I refuse to do it no one would care but me and the program would suffer.
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Post by rcole on Jan 28, 2010 10:43:25 GMT -6
I've been in your situation many many times at several different schools. I designed the workouts and was there every day from November to May with no compensation. I even held the title of Head Strength Coach at a few school although someone else got the stipend for it. I did it anyway for the same reasons you mention. Right now I am in a pretty good situation. I am designing the program we do in the off-season. I am there almost every day. I do not get paid for it. Our head coach gets the stipend, but he is there every day...he is coaching his tail off...he is clearly in charge of the kids and I am clearly in charge of the workout. It is working out nicely. We have somewhere between 2 and 4 additional coaches each day who come in and coach the kids with us. They do not hang out or workout...they coach just as hard as they do at football practice. They don't get paid either. While it would be nice to get the $2,000 for the 9 months of work, I would rather lose the money and have other dedicated coaches helping me out. I also like having the option to miss a day once in a while so I can be present for my own kids.
If you are young and somewhat unproven...I say suck it up for a few more years if you want to be a head coach. Try to get more help to take some of the stress off of you. If you are a hot commodity, start looking for another job.
One thing I am working on to help us in the weight room....
I got my masters degree in exercise science from a local private university (in the same city as I coach). I am working on setting up an internship for undergraduate exercise science majors that would involve them coming to our weight sessions to teach technique and learn the problems and solutions you must deal with when working out a large group. I hope to have them come in on our days that we have 7th and 8th graders.
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Post by rcole on Jan 28, 2010 10:49:54 GMT -6
Oh, I forgot to mention, you can suppliment your own income. Just have a lift-a-thon. One year we raised $6,000 at a small rural school a few years back. Get approval and run it through your coach so that is is legit.
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