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Post by charger109 on Jan 25, 2010 21:15:06 GMT -6
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Post by eric58 on Jan 25, 2010 22:57:27 GMT -6
Hopefully they won't let Donald Trump be involved. He is the one I hear caused the fall of the old USFL. It was on an espn show 30 something. Not sure of the name.
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Post by charger109 on Jan 26, 2010 20:45:19 GMT -6
Hopefully they won't let Donald Trump be involved. He is the one I hear caused the fall of the old USFL. It was on an espn show 30 something. Not sure of the name. It' called: Who Killed the USFL? I hear a lot of people really loved the USFL. |
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Post by adw30 on Jan 26, 2010 21:36:44 GMT -6
I used to enjoy watching the USFL back in the dya. I have a few games recorded of the Houston Gamblers with Jim Kelly running the run and shoot taking on the Denver Gold who were coached by Mouse Davis at the time.
I remember watching Reggie White play in the league with the Memphis Showboats.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jan 26, 2010 22:44:19 GMT -6
The article says they're a successor to the USFL, implying business continuity. What'd they do, buy the rights to the names for $3? (That was the joke about the value of the USFL after they won $1 tripled as damages in their lawsuit vs. the NFL and TV networks.) I don't think any sports archivist should accept this USFL as a true continuation of the old organiz'n for what would (I think) be the longest ever suspension of operations with eventual resumption of any sports league or team, ever. |
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Post by casec11 on Jan 27, 2010 9:19:59 GMT -6
All I know is: I would rather watch football in the spring then the other sports.
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Post by Yash on Jan 27, 2010 9:26:38 GMT -6
Think of the quality of football it would be though. Look at the NFL right now... there are reasons why the rams are as bad as they are, the lions aren't good, and there are teams way down there. Because there isn't enough talent to go around as it is. Is another league going to find this talent that the NFL can't find and actually put a decent product on the field? I want to watch football as well, but I don't want to watch a trainwreck every week.
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Post by coachguy83 on Jan 27, 2010 11:30:36 GMT -6
I disagree that there are bad teams because there is not enough talent to go around. There are bad teams because some teams are just way better at finding the right talent. I mean the Colts are playing in the Super Bowl with a WR that played DIII ball as a major contributor to their offense.
Football in the spring will work as long as it is presented well. The UFL was pretty good football, but the presentation sucked. The teams had horrible names, uglier uniforms, and the production value of FCS ball. If a league can step up and give us football with good production and uniforms that won't hurt the eyes they have a chance.
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Post by playsmart on Jan 27, 2010 11:49:34 GMT -6
I am excited... This time next year we won't have to worry about losing football for a half of a year. Any football is better than the NBA, or MLB. I can't stand the summers and spring (expect for the NFL draft) because there is no entertaining sports on. Even if it is bad... bet it will beat was the NBA and MLB.
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Post by coachinghopeful on Jan 27, 2010 11:53:04 GMT -6
Talent is relative. The Rams and Raiders sucked in the NFL and were absolutely painful to watch, but both would probably have destroyed Alabama if they'd met head to head this year. Talent does not equal "quality."
I agree with CoachGuy83 that it's all about the presentation and marketing: basically, the execution. If the new USFL takes a page from the old USFL's book and embraces new trends and innovations in football (think of all the good "spread" QBs that get overlooked by the NFL), they might have a product people want to see. Imagine a TX franchise coached by Mike Leach with Graham Harrell at QB, or a team anywhere in the southeast that's built around Tim Tebow. People would follow those.
So many upstart football leagues (USFL, World League, XFL, etc.) go out and just look bush league--almost as if they're trying to look 2nd rate. Stupid uniforms, cheesy gimmicks, etc. Any new football league would do well to look at the early days of the AFL, or at how NASCAR has managed to grow from a regional sport in the southeast to a national sports empire. You've got to find revenue streams (like corporate sponsorships and TV deals), but a big part of the long term success would be growing the league slowly and sustainably. The Arena League fell apart when they decided to get too big, too uickly.
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Post by coachinghopeful on Jan 27, 2010 12:29:25 GMT -6
Actually, after reading that wiki... I have my doubts this thing will ever get off the ground. It just seems all kinds of shady for a supposed multi million dollar enterprise. It would be awesome if it did get started. Maybe they could buy out the UFL and merge its 4 teams with 6 USFL franchises.
I just don't get why so many upstart football leagues keep trying to put a team in Las Vegas. I know there are lots of people there and it's a great tourism spot, but when has anyone in Vegas ever gave a crap about football? Compared to gambling and shows, some podunk football team just can't compete. LA and NYC seem to have similar things going. Fans there only care about the big leagues.
For long term sustainability, it's probably best if any upstart football league confine itself to a few geographic areas. Maybe start with 8 teams in the southeast, then expand by adding 6-8 team "conferences" in places that will support teams like Texas, the Midwest, etc. The "conference champs" make it to the playoffs, but otherwise will only play 1-2 "non conference" games a year to save on travel costs. There's a lot these leagues could learn from the successful semipro leagues.
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Post by npchamps on Jan 27, 2010 14:10:22 GMT -6
If They don't get a good TV contract. I t won't have a chance, but i hope it makes because I like to watch football
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Post by tog on Jan 27, 2010 15:25:07 GMT -6
All I know is: I would rather watch football in the spring then the other sports. no kidding year round football would be awesome i loved watching the usfl and then seeing some of those same guys latch onto nfl teams |
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Post by Juliath on Jan 27, 2010 17:46:42 GMT -6
As long as they can bring back Spurrier and Bandit Ball I'm in!
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Post by charger109 on Jan 27, 2010 21:22:20 GMT -6
Coaches!
You have to watch this......
Funny!
It think this kind of justifies why the USFL should comeback!
hahaha!
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jan 28, 2010 4:56:46 GMT -6
When I was in high school, before "fantasy football" had its ghey name, we played "fantasty football" using USFL players.
The USFL was great for guys like me who couldnt get enough football. Cool teams like the Chicago Blitz, the Breakers, the Stars, the Stallions, The Gold, The cool Panthers and Outlaws and the Express, the Generals with doug flutie and Herschel walker....yeah, I loved the usfl and couldnt understand stubborn fans refusing to recognize it as football.
I would love to see it return however I think the USFL and any other league that wants to survive is going to have to avoid viewing itself as a way to compete with the NFL. They would do well to be a place for developmental type players and keep the salaries low, the cost to go to the game low (ie take the family to a football game for 25 bucks instead of a couple of hundred).
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Post by bleefb on Jan 28, 2010 12:13:23 GMT -6
I enjoyed the USL and still have some video of Jim Kelly vs Steve Young. I agree that without a good TV contract it can't survive. As long as the teams are competitive WITH EACH OTHER it will be fine in regards to skill level.
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Post by lsrood on Jan 28, 2010 12:28:04 GMT -6
I enjoyed watching it as well and was a season ticket holder for the inagural (and unfortunately only season) for the Pittsburgh Maulers. Got to see Jim Kelly and the Houston Gamblers in person--he lit the Maulers up and the Philadelphia Stars had a pretty good team at the time as well. It was next to impossible to get Steeler season tickets back them and it is worse now, so it was fun being able to go to the games back in the day. I ended up coaching the next year with the backup quarterback of the Maulers--he found out they folded at one of our practices and had the opportunity to coach with a former member of the Philadelphia Stars just three years ago.
I would enjoy seeing the USFL come back.
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Post by lsrood on Jan 28, 2010 12:30:13 GMT -6
That should be "inaugural" season, and I'm certified in English. We need spell check on Huey!
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Post by bobgoodman on Jan 28, 2010 20:50:22 GMT -6
That should be "inaugural" season, and I'm certified in English. That ain't nuthin'...I get the Maulers mixed up with the Albany Metro Mallers. |
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Post by illiniwek on Jan 30, 2010 19:06:21 GMT -6
I loved watching the USFL. There was serious talent in that league too. Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Herschel Walker. I don't think another league could be started today that could lure that kind of talent away from the NFL. Coach T www.chiefpigskin.com |
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jan 30, 2010 19:18:03 GMT -6
Hershel, kelvin bryant, steve young, jim kelly, reggie white, sam mills, anthony carter, flutie, ....norwood....there were quite a few good/great players in that league.
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