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Post by wingtol on Jan 18, 2010 15:55:49 GMT -6
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Post by easye17 on Jan 18, 2010 19:22:10 GMT -6
written like a guy who owes his job to his dad ...
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Post by 1/11th on Jan 18, 2010 19:38:32 GMT -6
Thought he was correct on many points. I strongly agree with the question of why are the Lane Kifins of the world of coaching making what they are making while there is an economic problem in our country and the working class in struggling to put their children through college. Also we see this at the high school level where people are chosing to be personal coaches for athletes in the off season and make far more money than the coaches who are not financially compensated for all the time they put in. And lastly I met Jay Paterno this past summer at a football camp and follwoing that experience I believe he is an outstanding person.
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Post by easye17 on Jan 19, 2010 8:12:22 GMT -6
From personal experience, I'll differ with you on some of that. But the rat race that is college coaching - throw that kind of money around and what do you expect?
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 19, 2010 11:12:32 GMT -6
written like a guy who owes his job to his dad ... The difference between Jay Paterno and Lane Kiffin or Derek Dooley is that he did not bolt the second he could for more money without the merit to warrant it...... I have no problem with a guy getting an interview because he knows someone. Many people, myself included, had an in because they knew someone The problem is the lack of merit for the money, and more importantly, the job that the Lane Kiffin's of the world possess. As he said, Tennessee is laying off faculty and cutting educational services yet threw $7 million at a coach who won 7 games.
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Post by blb on Jan 19, 2010 11:27:02 GMT -6
I do not know the University of Tennesseee's specific situation, but at that level (BCS) many coaches' salaries are not paid out of the school's general fund but by separate foundations or groups.
So the laying off of faculty and cutting of programs is not prompted by or related to how much the football coach is paid. Young Paterno's argument there is specious.
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Post by coach4life on Jan 19, 2010 11:35:25 GMT -6
You're right, usually they draw a base salary from the university that is on par with other leadership positions at the school, the rest comes from boosters, contracts with suppliers, etc. I would imagine in most states you could go on the web somewhere and find their base salary's, they ain't in the millions, not even close. If'n I remember right Bobby Bowden's base was about $225k, any of us would take it in a heartbeat, but nowhere close to his total compensation.
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Post by Coach JR on Jan 19, 2010 11:42:19 GMT -6
I do not know the University of Tennesseee's specific situation, but at that level (BCS) many coaches' salaries are not paid out of the school's general fund but by separate foundations or groups. So the laying off of faculty and cutting of programs is not prompted by or related to how much the football coach is paid. Young Paterno's argument there is specious. You'd be surprised how many people just don't know this. Fact is, at a few institutions, Football is not only self supporting, it supports many other sports, AND contributes millions back to the educational side of the institution. True, the vast majority of college programs are not like this, but where the coaches are being paid millions, they're worth every dime and more when viewed from a business standpont. Some data: blog.al.com/bn/2008/02/how_the_sec_got_rich.html
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Post by airman on Jan 19, 2010 17:32:33 GMT -6
this could all be solved really easy by eliminating the football coach only position and return college head coaches at the bcs and fcs level to teaching duties like they have a division 3. make them apart of the college campus.
I would like to see spring practice eliminated and there be a 3 month recruiting period only.
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