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Post by M4 on Jan 12, 2010 20:10:01 GMT -6
Taking his dad Monty Kiffin and Asst HC Ed Oregon with him. What a guy... 1 year at UT and he's gone
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Post by brophy on Jan 12, 2010 20:40:34 GMT -6
WHAAAAAAT!?!
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Post by saintrad on Jan 12, 2010 20:42:35 GMT -6
And to quote Josh Wolf from the College Experiment: "And Lane Kiffin's wife is H-O-T!!! Bada bing bing bing"
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Post by utchuckd on Jan 12, 2010 20:52:03 GMT -6
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Post by coachgr on Jan 12, 2010 20:56:18 GMT -6
Loyalty: Seems to becoming a lost virture.
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Post by tog on Jan 12, 2010 21:00:50 GMT -6
Loyalty: Seems to becoming a lost virture. after what TENN did to Majors for fullmer this is just totally ironic and funny to me let em burn
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Post by reignman03 on Jan 12, 2010 21:06:09 GMT -6
I hope he knows what he is getting into. The fact of the matter is that USC will most likely be in some hot water in the near future with NCAA violations, not to mention the future violations that Lane Kiffin will have with recruiting. I had to be the pessimist here but this could get real ugly. Don't get me wrong, Lane Kiffin can sell himself in a variety of ways but I am not so sure that either party (Kiffin or USC) know what they are getting themselves into.
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Post by coachcathey on Jan 12, 2010 21:14:28 GMT -6
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Post by tog on Jan 12, 2010 21:15:06 GMT -6
I hope he knows what he is getting into. The fact of the matter is that USC will most likely be in some hot water in the near future with NCAA violations, not to mention the future violations that Lane Kiffin will have with recruiting. I had to be the pessimist here but this could get real ugly. Don't get me wrong, Lane Kiffin can sell himself in a variety of ways but I am not so sure that either party (Kiffin or USC) know what they are getting themselves into. and Tenn won't after he leaves there? lol
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Post by coachinghopeful on Jan 12, 2010 21:16:12 GMT -6
From some of the stuff that's been reported in the media, Kiffin might've already gotten UT into hot water with the NCAA, so for him it might simply be going from one fryer to another. That would help explain why a reported 10 other candidates, including some with "uncertain" futures, turned USC down before Kiffin quickly jumped at the job. Kiffin was not well liked within the USC athletic dept. by those who had worked with him previously...
Majors was never well liked within the university. He was a hard man to work with and rubbed lots of people the wrong way. It was wrong for UT to dump him the way they did, but they were looking for an excuse already. Sort of like Leach at TT, I think.
As a lifelong UT fan, it's going to really suck to watch these guys become SEC bottom feeders for the next few years as they lose basically an entire recruiting class and go through the normal round of players leaving under the new HC... AGAIN.
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Post by utchuckd on Jan 12, 2010 21:18:18 GMT -6
tog why the hate for UT? Did you play for Majors? It was 17 years ago, should we get screwed forever more because one guy got a raw deal?
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Post by tog on Jan 12, 2010 21:20:53 GMT -6
tog why the hate for UT? Did you play for Majors? It was 17 years ago, should we get screwed forever more because one guy got a raw deal? i really couldn't care less about a university one way or another but ones that screw over coaches and let backstabbers take over then hire someone like kiffin then get screwed by someone like kiffin it's like a mastercard commercial good luck to tenn
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Post by byuwolverine on Jan 12, 2010 21:26:06 GMT -6
I wonder what Monte thinks of his son and his behavior sometimes.
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Post by brophy on Jan 12, 2010 21:47:13 GMT -6
If this was a 'dream job' for Lane, who's to say he's wrong for jumping at his one opportunity?
What's loyalty got to do with it?
/devils advocate
Oh well, as the world turns
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Post by DLine06 on Jan 12, 2010 21:47:57 GMT -6
Loyalty: Seems to becoming a lost virture. after what TENN did to Majors for fullmer this is just totally ironic and funny to me let em burn Let both Tennessee n USC burn. Not the Lane Kiffin fan
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Post by utchuckd on Jan 12, 2010 21:52:31 GMT -6
Your friendly neighborhood interweb rumor update:
Will Muschamp to be named Tennessee coach as early as tomorrow.
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Post by 4verts on Jan 12, 2010 22:01:48 GMT -6
Guys I had an interview there on thursday for a GA. What do I do now? Do I go up there to the DFO and say I'm here? Help me cause I got no clue. My plans just got thrown in the air in the last two hours.
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Post by sin86 on Jan 12, 2010 22:57:36 GMT -6
Your friendly neighborhood interweb rumor update: Will Muschamp to be named Tennessee coach as early as tomorrow. The minute after I heard that Kiffin was gone this was my first thought. Muschamp would be a good fit. Hopefully Tennessee would give him time. They need to earn some respect back in the SEC. Right now I think most have UT pegged as a bunch of punks with little to no discipline. Even our governor is commenting about it.
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Post by phantom on Jan 12, 2010 23:07:49 GMT -6
Your friendly neighborhood interweb rumor update: Will Muschamp to be named Tennessee coach as early as tomorrow. So, he'll be in Knoxville while he waits for Mack Brown to retire.
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Post by utchuckd on Jan 12, 2010 23:23:37 GMT -6
Or Richt to get fired.
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Post by sin86 on Jan 12, 2010 23:36:59 GMT -6
If you want to talk recruiting powerhouse. What about Peyton Manning coming back to Tennessee after retiring? I think that he could lead Tennessee, he just seems to have that personality that says trust me and everything will be OK. Of course after the whole Tiger episode I am really hoping that he is not another media built personality.
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 13, 2010 1:21:31 GMT -6
Not the hire I wanted for SC, but anyone replacing Pete is going to have it tough. I am a pretty big Orgeron fan and SC's defense should be just as good, since there will be a great amount of carry over from Pete's concepts to Monte's, what with Pete being a disciple and all.
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Post by rhscoachbh on Jan 13, 2010 2:01:03 GMT -6
Both Mike Riley and Jack Del Rio said they were never offered by USC. Pete Carroll had said that USC was not interested in an NFL coach, but a college coach. Some are saying this had been in the works starting as of Saturday, and that Pete had a hand in it. Lane was there during the Bush years and knows what happened. Gotta figure if there were sanctions coming down that him and Pete would know, and would have stayed away from the job. I'm just happy to see Ed O. coming back and Monte Kiffin in town. Should be fun to watch.
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Post by coachinghopeful on Jan 13, 2010 2:16:03 GMT -6
The report going around is that it was the package deal of Lane Kiffin, Monty Kiffin, and Ed Orgeron that sold USC on the hire. The talks to bring Norm Chow back make it look like Kiffin's putting together another "Dream Scheme" staff at USC, similar to what he did at Tennessee. Lane Kiffin's personality will probably play better in LA than it did in Knoxville and the Southeast.
LK and EO are probably the 2 best recruiters in college football and the USC brass was supposedly very worried about a bad recruiting class sinking the program for a few years. Kiffin already had a very nice recruiting class lined up at UT, most of whom said they committed mostly because they wanted to play for those 3 guys. With signing day still a few weeks away, and a lot of those kids looking at USC anyway, I can see them poaching a few and taking them with them. Under the circumstances, this might look like a brilliant move for USC in the short term.
However, I have my doubts how long it can last for them. In 13 months on the job, Lane Kiffin got more recruiting violations than wins and last year's staff was full of guys who jumped ship for greener pastures after a year. Monty will be 69 and has said he only plans to coach another year or two. Also, if the media reports on Lane Kiffin and Orgeron trying to talk some of Tennessee's freshmen (like Bryce Brown) into transferring to USC are true, that has to be some type of NCAA violation.
I honestly wonder what big time coach would even want the Tennessee job right now. This year's recruiting class is going to evaporate and they'll probably only have about 60-70 legit scholarship players in the SEC next year. Whoever comes next is going to face big time expectations with what's basically a Div. Iaa roster and possibly NCAA sanctions, while fans/media will only give the guy about 2 years to "rebuild" before they demand an SEC title and start calling for his head. This will be an ugly situation for a very long time.
Relating this back to coaching... does anyone know what the heck it is that Lane Kiffin keeps saying in job interviews to land all these great jobs that are beyond his apparent merits? It certainly can't be great references that impress everybody, and he doesn't come across as very charismatic whenever there's a microphone around. I know everyone loves his dad, but Lane has a habit of alienating people. How does he keep getting these jobs!?!?
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 13, 2010 5:06:18 GMT -6
Quote of the Week (From Pat Forde ESPN.com)
"Paris Hilton has paid more dues than Lane Kiffin"
On the flip side though, I don't blame Kiffin, and I think much of the animosity is simply the manifestation of jealousy. Lets face it, to any neutral person SC is a better job than Tenn. The closest football National Power is 1,000+ (estimate) in Austin. Tenn has several in their conference. While sanctions are probably looming (possibly for both teams) SC still has the glitz and drama that is more aligned with the current state of recruiting (which is sad). So I can see why he makes the move.
As I said, I think a lot of the attention here is jealousy and bewilderment. Media members seem to beat him up because they can't really find a story other than "Why this guy?" Most have no rationale why he was hired to coach the Raiders...then UT.... so why this?
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Post by goldenbear76 on Jan 13, 2010 6:05:57 GMT -6
Not that I'm bias or anything...but if USC gets the death penalty by the NCAA..i won't cry..i promise.
Go Bears.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Jan 13, 2010 6:58:03 GMT -6
Loyalty: Seems to becoming a lost virture. I feel the same way - but loyalty was lost long ago. NCAA FB is a business dressed as a game, bottom line. I don't blame Kiffin- if they can fire a coach for allegations at the drop of a hat(ehm...Mike Leach) then F*'em...better get yours! In the words of Norm Peterson from Cheers - "It's a dog-eat-dog world out there...and I'm wearing Milk Bone underwear" Plus I'm a Big 10 guy, so anything to smear the reputation of the SEC/PAC 10 is a plus in my book Go Blue
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Post by bigm0073 on Jan 13, 2010 7:01:03 GMT -6
Sent the best player I ever coached to UT in 2007... In his four years he will have 3 different head coaches. That really sucks for the young man.
I know it is a business and I get it.. Do not get me wrong. I just do have a little bit of an attachment about this. Man I did not see that one coming....
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Jan 13, 2010 7:03:09 GMT -6
Quote of the Week (From Pat Forde ESPN.com) "Paris Hilton has paid more dues than Lane Kiffin" HILARIOUS
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Post by DLine06 on Jan 13, 2010 7:07:31 GMT -6
Majors was never well liked within the university. He was a hard man to work with and rubbed lots of people the wrong way. It was wrong for UT to dump him the way they did, but they were looking for an excuse already. Sort of like Leach at TT, I think. Coach, not to go too far off topic but everything that happened with Leach, was on him. Parts of the administration didn't like leach (AD Gerald Myers) and Leach added fuel to the fire when he cussed out him, President Guy Bailey as well as the 1 man who was in his back corner, Chancellor Kent Hance. The one thing with Kiffin that I guess we have to take into consideration is obviously the fact that administrations like him (till he leaves) and he obviously has some dynamic interview skills. Then add to it that he's coached in the NFL and has coached at Tennessee makes his recruiting ability stretch coast to coast.
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