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Post by John Knight on Dec 17, 2009 10:39:59 GMT -6
How many would like to see your state do like Texas and Mass and do away with NFHS rules and used strictly NCAA rule book? I know I would. It is silly to have different rules that just confuse fans, players and coaches. Even some officials are confused!
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 17, 2009 10:44:41 GMT -6
I like the federations rules.
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Post by phantom on Dec 17, 2009 10:51:02 GMT -6
I do, too.
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Post by airraider on Dec 17, 2009 11:27:23 GMT -6
I would like closer hashes.. and to be able to cut block.. but thats about it..
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Post by John Knight on Dec 17, 2009 13:09:37 GMT -6
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Post by silkyice on Dec 17, 2009 18:27:35 GMT -6
I would love the change.
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Post by jgordon1 on Dec 17, 2009 20:37:07 GMT -6
Coached in MA and ran the flexbone there so we loved the cutting and the closer hashes...easier to run into the boundary....funny story..my first year there and as a hs coach..getting to play our first game..we are warming up on the field the day before the game...and something isn't right..can't figure it out...finally I realize they the hashes are messed up..I go over to the maintence guy and say hey..what's up w/ the field..he looks at me like I am an a-hole and pulls out his book..look it says right here 53' 3"....I say ummm..you are using a fed book....he says nothing they can do...the refs don't even notice so we tell them the field is f'ed up just move the ball in a little and we are good to go...ref's wouldn't do it just used the fed hashes...i was flippin out my first game as a hs coach
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Post by airman on Dec 17, 2009 20:40:03 GMT -6
I would like a uniform set of rules for all levels from pee wee to the pros. it would help officials and players.
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Post by coachjd on Dec 17, 2009 21:29:36 GMT -6
bring on the NCAA rules!!!!
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Post by tog on Dec 17, 2009 21:49:47 GMT -6
the fed rules are totally lame
they narrow the talent gap
if you can and are willin to cut then it doesn't matter how big/fast/strong you are---this is real football now
i cannot believe anyone here would actually WANT to have the fed rules
the ONLY reason i can see why is if you are at a vastly superior talent school
tell me why you like em?
serious?
really?
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Post by phantom on Dec 17, 2009 22:11:29 GMT -6
the fed rules are totally lame they narrow the talent gap if you can and are willin to cut then it doesn't matter how big/fast/strong you are---this is real football now i cannot believe anyone here would actually WANT to have the fed rules the ONLY reason i can see why is if you are at a vastly superior talent school tell me why you like em? serious? really? I don't like the cutting because I feel that the game is safer without it. Hash marks? I'm a defensive coach. |
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Post by k on Dec 17, 2009 22:38:13 GMT -6
I don't like the cutting because I feel that the game is safer without it. Hash marks? I'm a defensive coach. I agree with this. I don't really see a need for cut blocking. I'd prefer not to teach it and I'd prefer not to have it used against us. But as long as it is legal I'm going to teach it. |
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Post by mariner42 on Dec 17, 2009 22:43:02 GMT -6
The 2 offenses I prefer (Fly and flexbone) are both dramatically better w/ cut blocking on the perimeter & downfield, so that's sweet.
But, I hate thinking about all the time and energy we'd need to spend on teaching our perimeter guys on how to defend the cut.
In the end, I'm for it, but I can live w/o it, too.
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Post by 20x on Dec 17, 2009 23:31:45 GMT -6
Anxiously awaiting the cut block being legalized...
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 18, 2009 9:46:56 GMT -6
We cut block liberally on the los, feel no reason to cut block in the open field etc. I think its too dangerous.
Never once concerned myself with the hash marks.
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Post by John Knight on Dec 18, 2009 9:48:36 GMT -6
What about uncatchable pass? Running a kick out of the end zone?
Intentional grounding rules with tackle box?
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Post by sin86 on Dec 18, 2009 11:20:52 GMT -6
I think that cut blocking would benefit our situation. For you guys that have it do you have data that might prove it to be unsafe? Local college uses it and says that they have no evidence that it causes injuries at that level.
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Post by phantom on Dec 18, 2009 11:23:42 GMT -6
I think that cut blocking would benefit our situation. For you guys that have it do you have data that might prove it to be unsafe? Local college uses it and says that they have no evidence that it causes injuries at that level. I don't have any hard evidence. Neither do they, really. What do they compare it against? |
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Post by coachguy83 on Dec 18, 2009 11:27:57 GMT -6
NCAA Rules are cool with me.
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Post by phantom on Dec 18, 2009 11:28:28 GMT -6
What about uncatchable pass? Running a kick out of the end zone? Intentional grounding rules with tackle box? I wouldn't mind "uncatchable pass" but it does add another level of judgement calls for the officials. The Fed touchback rule prevents teenagers from doing something stupid and that's a good thing IMO. In my experience 90% of the time that a kid tries to run it out of the end zone it turns out badly. Since I'm a DC why would I want the "tackle box" rule? |
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Post by mariner42 on Dec 18, 2009 11:31:14 GMT -6
Running a kick out of the end zone? Heck, I didn't even think of that. We probably would've had at least 1 more special teams TD, maybe even 2, if we could've taken them outta the end zone. |
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Post by John Knight on Dec 18, 2009 11:31:36 GMT -6
Well the fed rule on IG looks to be clear cut but is interpreted very differently by many different officials. Any time a QB throw a ball away to save yardage or time should be IG. It is not called that way.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Dec 18, 2009 11:35:52 GMT -6
I would love to see NCAA rules across the board. Less confusion and more favorable rules (Like John Knight stated above) Heck, cutting may reduce the number of head injuries at the HS level...you never know...
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Post by phantom on Dec 18, 2009 11:38:51 GMT -6
Well the fed rule on IG looks to be clear cut but is interpreted very differently by many different officials. Any time a QB throw a ball away to save yardage or time should be IG. It is not called that way. I don't disagree with that but throwing the ball away and staying within the framework of the rules is a skill. |
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Post by John Knight on Dec 18, 2009 11:54:47 GMT -6
That epends 100% on the Referee!
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Post by John Knight on Dec 18, 2009 12:16:00 GMT -6
Hey defensive coaches, no more face guarding!
No more 5 yard Face mask!
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Post by John Knight on Dec 18, 2009 12:17:15 GMT -6
Field Goal From Outside the 20
Unsuccessful kick results in touchback if ball crosses goal line.(fed)
Ball returned to previous spot if untouched by B beyond the neutral zone.(ncaa)
Prior to change of possession, the try ends if A1 fumbles and a teammate recovers. Not attempted following last timed down touchdown if game decided.
B may score two points.
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Post by phantom on Dec 18, 2009 12:20:36 GMT -6
Field Goal From Outside the 20 Unsuccessful kick results in touchback if ball crosses goal line.(fed) Ball returned to previous spot if untouched by B beyond the neutral zone.(ncaa) Again, I don't disagree. I just don't know how much of an effect it will have. We don't see that many 37 yard FG attempts. |
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Post by justryn2 on Dec 18, 2009 12:47:30 GMT -6
I would definitely prefer the NCAA rules over the Fed. I agree with Tog's comment that cut blocking helps teams with less size and strength compete with bigger, stronger teams. And, its just less confusing for everyone. One set of rules for youth ball through college would also help, IMO, improve the quality and consistency of officiating.
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Post by saintrad on Dec 18, 2009 23:51:18 GMT -6
I would like closer hashes.. and to be able to cut block.. but thats about it.. I agree.... let us triple option flexbone teams cut downfield |
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