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Post by cqmiller on Dec 6, 2009 1:05:34 GMT -6
I think that Alabama and TCU are the two most deserving teams this year.
Bama doesn't really need any arguing for...
TCU beat all of their ranked teams badly...
Boise beat up on Oregon, and Oregon is pretty good...
Cincy can beat anyone with their offense & special teams...
Texas just doesn't seem to be a balanced football team... ALL McCoy & Ship
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Post by windigo on Dec 6, 2009 2:31:07 GMT -6
This was certainly a down year for the Big 12 and the Mount West has been on the same level as the BCS conferences for years. The only reason that Texas will go is purely reputation. This year and this season they do not deserve it.
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Post by brophy on Dec 6, 2009 5:36:23 GMT -6
Call me a fat, crazy, Ahole....but when you don't have to play (and win) a conference championship game, you don't deserve a NC shot
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Post by highball007 on Dec 6, 2009 7:15:32 GMT -6
Why can't every conference have a championship game? All Conference Champions make a playoff bracket! All they would have to do is cut one non-conference game early on!
I truly believe that TCU, Boise, and Cincy have something that other big time schools don't. They know how to win, and they deserve a chance.
Oregon States Baseball team never would have won the College World Series if they weren't given a chance in a playoff scenario.
All deserving teams should have a chance!
Just my opinion.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 6, 2009 8:06:10 GMT -6
nobody, nobody, nobody, there is no national champ game because there are NO PLAYOFFS. sorry, i refuse to recognize any team as national champs until there are playoffs. right now college football is to pro football what middle school is to high school. without playoffs there are no champions.
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 6, 2009 9:15:51 GMT -6
nobody, nobody, nobody, there is no national champ game because there are NO PLAYOFFS. sorry, i refuse to recognize any team as national champs until there are playoffs. right now college football is to pro football what middle school is to high school. without playoffs there are no champions. Neither does the NCAA at the BCS level. It is the BCS national championship game, not the NCAA national championship game. That said, I don't see why everyone is so hung up on little bracket lines. I mean touchdownmaker, just a few weeks ago you were complaining about the inability to develop competitive juices, complaining that you have a hard time fielding a team because your students only want to be a part of a pre existing winner and now you are saying that there are no champions because we don't have little bracket lines?  |
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Post by cnunley on Dec 6, 2009 9:43:38 GMT -6
I'm an SEC guy all the way and HATE Texas with everything in me. So Alabama vs. Florida seems like a good National Championship game.
nah....I want a little guy to get a chance. I watched the Cinci game yesterday. You cant tell me they dont deserve a short as well as TCU. Hell, we've all seen what Boise has done on the big stage the past few years. I voted for TCU but all three of the above mentioned deserve it more than Texas.
Like mentioned in a previous post Texas' "History" is why they will be playing on Jan 7.
Thats the only downside of NCAA Football. "History" is considered more than the here and now
Just my two cents
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 6, 2009 9:47:01 GMT -6
nobody, nobody, nobody, there is no national champ game because there are NO PLAYOFFS. sorry, i refuse to recognize any team as national champs until there are playoffs. right now college football is to pro football what middle school is to high school. without playoffs there are no champions. Neither does the NCAA at the BCS level. It is the BCS national championship game, not the NCAA national championship game. That said, I don't see why everyone is so hung up on little bracket lines. I mean touchdownmaker, just a few weeks ago you were complaining about the inability to develop competitive juices, complaining that you have a hard time fielding a team because your students only want to be a part of a pre existing winner and now you are saying that there are no champions because we don't have little bracket lines? actually, NO, I didnt say what you posted, that might be what you interpreted. You are a very negative person though so I can see how youd spin it that way. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 6, 2009 9:57:48 GMT -6
Neither does the NCAA at the BCS level. It is the BCS national championship game, not the NCAA national championship game. That said, I don't see why everyone is so hung up on little bracket lines. I mean touchdownmaker, just a few weeks ago you were complaining about the inability to develop competitive juices, complaining that you have a hard time fielding a team because your students only want to be a part of a pre existing winner and now you are saying that there are no champions because we don't have little bracket lines? actually, NO, I didnt say what you posted, that might be what you interpreted. You are a very negative person though so I can see how youd spin it that way. No spin. You stated that you feel there is a growing issue with kids and parents only wanting to play for teams that are already winners... but now you so that there are no champions without brackets. Rereading what I wrote though, I was wrong to say "hard time fielding a team", but...you have to admit you did state several times about the low numbers and low work ethic of the kids around you last year. I would be happy if they played a conference schedule with a few non conference games sprinkled in and called it a day. Maybe a conference championship...but I have no use for or need for brackets. Back to the original point of the post. I would actually agree with your answer. I don't think there should BE such a game. |
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Post by brophy on Dec 6, 2009 10:00:50 GMT -6
Its going to come down to the BEST matchup.
Anyone taking TCU or Cinci against ALABAMA!?
Hells no
TCU vs Cinci? Good matchup.
But then again, 'national champion' is all smoke and mirrors, anyway. I like football, so the more intriguing matchups in December, the better, no matter how obscure
As glad I was that Bama won, I think I am even more exicited for Nebraska and Pelini on the return of legitimate Blackshirts on the National stage
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 6, 2009 10:01:45 GMT -6
You have a history of putting the spin on what coaches post, you almost constantly spin things in a very negative way. try actually reading what is written instead of twisting and spinning things to create a very negative picture.
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Post by phantom on Dec 6, 2009 10:08:05 GMT -6
Call me a fat, crazy, Ahole....but when you don't have to play (and win) a conference championship game, you don't deserve a NC shot OK, I'll call you crazy. Hell, I would have done that anyway. |
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Post by k on Dec 6, 2009 10:08:44 GMT -6
without playoffs there are no champions. Exactly. |
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Post by phantom on Dec 6, 2009 10:12:48 GMT -6
Why can't every conference have a championship game? All Conference Champions make a playoff bracket! All they would have to do is cut one non-conference game early on! I. Money. I've heard that each home game is worth a million dollars. There are others on the board who have more insight into the inner workings but it seems to me that giving up a home game is serious business. |
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Post by lukethadrifter on Dec 6, 2009 11:04:16 GMT -6
I am a big Longhorns fan, but I seriously think that Bama and TCU are the two best teams in the country. Alabama is the best team this year, in my opinion, for a few reasons:
1) They are great defensively stopping the run (& the pass)
2) They are great offensively running the football, with the best running back in the nation in their backfield. The other running back is no slouch either
3) They have a Texas product McElroy as qb, who is a great leader, and who has never lost a high school or college game. He outplayed Tebow yesterday
4) Julio Jones is one of the best receivers in the country
5) Alabama has one of the best coaching staffs in the country under Saban
6) Alabama's defense is hard to prepare for - they can show a variety of looks and fronts
7) Defensively, Alabama probably has the best inside linebacker in the country
*In my opinion, "Jimmy's and Joe's" this year - Alabama has more of them than anyone else
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 6, 2009 11:10:43 GMT -6
I think Notre Dame against USC is the NC game I want to see most (roll eyes) - its about that arbitrary
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Post by cqmiller on Dec 6, 2009 11:23:36 GMT -6
Its going to come down to the BEST matchup. Anyone taking TCU or Cinci against ALABAMA!? Hells no TCU vs Cinci? Good matchup. But then again, 'national champion' is all smoke and mirrors, anyway. I like football, so the more intriguing matchups in December, the better, no matter how obscure As glad I was that Bama won, I think I am even more exicited for Nebraska and Pelini on the return of legitimate Blackshirts on the National stage Nobody would have taken Boise vs. Oklahoma or Utah vs. Alabama either, and they both turned out to be great football games. Looking at texas facing Nebraska's defense, does anybody want the "National Championship" to have another offensive output like Texas had last night? Secondary & LB's for Alabama are better than Nebraska's. That DT for Nebraska is probably the best I've ever seen, but Alabama doesn't have nobodies on their DL either. Big 12 Championship just showed that there is no defense in the Big 12 South. Those teams that put up 5 million yards on D2 schools and each other, as soon as they face a team with a legitimate defense, they shrivel up and fall down. Nebraska shouldn't have even been able to be close with how terrible their offense is, but Texas let them dictate the entire game. 2 pass interference calls when the ball was out of bounds gave texas their scores in the 3rd quarter or else they get blanked and the kick out of bounds doesn't kill them. Last time texas got a shot... they looked awful except for 1 player. He had to single-handedly run them to a NC. No running game for texas at all and they are gonna play in NC game? |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 6, 2009 11:36:09 GMT -6
Why can't every conference have a championship game? All Conference Champions make a playoff bracket! It really is a great deal more complicated than that. Lets try to avoid the standard " lets set up a ___ team bracket, the BCS bowl sites can be the locations of the games...blah blah blah" suggestion that pops up every single year from fans. |
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Post by mariner42 on Dec 6, 2009 13:05:25 GMT -6
My favorite thing would be to have 'Bama just coronated and then see TCU vs Cinci with all the exposure and hooplah that goes into a NC game. I really think that 'Bama is just significantly better than ANYONE else out there and I don't have any interest in seeing them put a whooping on Texas, Florida, TCU, Cinci, Boise, or anyone else. I think TCU or Cinci MIGHT be able to hang with 'Bama for a while, but I don't think it'd be close at the end.
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Post by coachjocko on Dec 6, 2009 15:19:31 GMT -6
I've read people posting talking about TCU and Cincy, comparing the two. Really, the big difference is TCU plays solid defense and Cincy does not. Those Bearcats would get swallowed up by Patterson's suffocating defense. Just my take. Seen the Frogs in practice and live. They are legit.
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Post by floridagator on Dec 6, 2009 15:21:48 GMT -6
Call me a fat, crazy, Ahole....but when you don't have to play (and win) a conference championship game, you don't deserve a NC shot that is my firm belief and also the reason why I do not believe in Conference Championship game rematches for the NC. If you cant win your championship you cant be a national champ can you I mean C'mon?! |
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Dec 6, 2009 17:56:07 GMT -6
William & Mary vs. Montana
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Post by PSS on Dec 6, 2009 18:11:54 GMT -6
I have a former player of mine playing for TX so of course I'm pulling or UT. However, the better matchup IMO would be TCU. For some reason UT has limited opening up their offense the last 2 games and it has almost cost them. Perhaps they were trying to work McCoy into Heisman position?
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Post by endersgame on Dec 6, 2009 19:50:43 GMT -6
It's official: UT vs. Alabama, TCU vs. Boise, Cincy vs. Florida.
Watching ESPN now.
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Post by cnunley on Dec 6, 2009 20:44:53 GMT -6
William & Mary vs. Montana App St might have something to say about that one. Dont tell me a playoff cant work for big time football. Its all about the benjamins though |
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Post by Juliath on Dec 7, 2009 21:27:22 GMT -6
Mount Union vs Whitewater. Again.
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Post by gre3nday on Dec 8, 2009 2:32:24 GMT -6
Alabama is the best team this year, in my opinion, for a few reasons: 1) They are great defensively stopping the run (& the pass) 2) They are great offensively running the football, with the best running back in the nation in their backfield. The other running back is no slouch either 3) They have a Texas product McElroy as qb, who is a great leader, and who has never lost a high school or college game. He outplayed Tebow yesterday 4) Julio Jones is one of the best receivers in the country 5) Alabama has one of the best coaching staffs in the country under Saban 6) Alabama's defense is hard to prepare for - they can show a variety of looks and fronts 7) Defensively, Alabama probably has the best inside linebacker in the country *In my opinion, "Jimmy's and Joe's" this year - Alabama has more of them than anyone else I agree with most of this except number 4. I've seen Bama play quite a few times this year (8) and he's dropped quite a lot of balls a top receiver should never do! Anyway the BCS Championship game should have been Bama and TCU. But it was never going to happen - unless there is some form of playoff or preseason rankings are scrapped (Texas was #2 preseason - if they go undefeated they are not going to move far form there!). |
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