Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day

sneakyben
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Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 4:59:58 GMT -6

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Post by sneakyben on Nov 2, 2009 4:59:58 GMT -6

Coaches,

I have a question regarding coaches time management on the side line on game day...
Senario is: Next season I will be the DC and OL-coach for my team...

When the defence is on, I need to be looking at the field, calling plays, making subs, fault finding...

When the offence is on, I need to be looking at the field seeing what fronts we're facing, making sure we're blocking the correct people, fault finding...

The question I have is: How should I be managing my time?

Ideally, when one of the units (OL or D) comes off the field I want to talk with right away, to discuss what is happening...

However, that is also the time I feel is most critical to be looking at how the other unit is doing on the field
(say we go 3 and out on O, I wont have had time to look at the defensive front...
say we're getting gashed for big yards on D, they could score before I have finished talking to the OL...)

I know one solution is to delegate, and that is what I will be working towards... but to start with I wont have members on the staff with appropriate coaching experience to take on-board what the players are saying, filter out any BS/confusion and give good advise/make good adjustments

The only other way I can think of is not good...
That is to rush through the discussion with the unit that has just left the field, getting back to the sideline ASAP...
But this would not allow me to throughly cover any questions/adjustments that arrise... and if questions are coming up they need answering because a confused player is a slow player...

Any other advise would be appreciated...

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Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 8:17:00 GMT -6

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Post by mariner42 on Nov 2, 2009 8:17:00 GMT -6

I've been in a similar situation before in that I was the OL coach and mouth-piece for the DC in the booth. It was really, really tough for me to do both jobs because I just couldn't get them done at the same time. Were I you, I'd try to coach up one of my assistants to get them to the point where they could help you with one of those responsibilities. Not necessarily do the whole job for you, but get them to the place where you could say "Coach, can you figure out what just happened to our pass pro that series" or whatever and the guy can at least come back to you with a decent answer.

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Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 9:52:56 GMT -6

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Post by coachbw on Nov 2, 2009 9:52:56 GMT -6

The way your staff is broken up will play a role in how you handle this. I think when you get into the off-season you will want to communicate your concerns with your head coach. I think that a coordinator needs to be focused on making their calls during the game. This may mean that the offensive coordinator will need to take on a more active role in making protection and scheme changes with the offensive line during the game. Just my initial thought on the issue.

phantom Guest	Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 9:59:08 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by phantom on Nov 2, 2009 9:59:08 GMT -6 I'm a DC and OL coach and I'll echo what others have said about delegating during the game. We have a coach who talks with the OL while the defense is on the field. I'm busy.

jgordon1 Contributor Posts: 5,705	Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 10:41:38 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jgordon1 on Nov 2, 2009 10:41:38 GMT -6 Most of my guys play both ways so I have to get them during punt or after a score..sometimes we will even sub out so I can talk to who I need
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Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 12:03:04 GMT -6

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Nov 2, 2009 10:41:38 GMT -6 jgordon1 said:

Most of my guys play both ways so I have to get them during punt or after a score..sometimes we will even sub out so I can talk to who I need

I will likely encounter this situation frequently too...

Do you feel that you are able to get your points across clearly in the limited time avalible?

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Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 12:05:31 GMT -6

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Post by coachbdud on Nov 2, 2009 12:05:31 GMT -6

Im in the same boat. I do the OL and DL. One thing that helps me is i am on the headsets with my assistant all game. SO i dont have to do as much work during the play. He can be my eyes and tell me whats happening on the other side of the field, or tell me from the box what front it is so i can draw it up on a whiteboard. Everyone plays both ways so i would only get a chance to talk to 1 or 2 kids during the game but i usually try to talk to them during a change of possession really quick. My LT rarely plays on D, so while we are punting ill talk try to talk to him. If i am subbing out one of my DT's i can quickly talk to them about either side of the ball while they get water.

Basically your time is extremely limited with the kids, maybe just 5 seconds is all you really have to talk, so be short and concise with them.

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Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 12:38:34 GMT -6

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Nov 2, 2009 12:03:04 GMT -6 sneakyben said:

Nov 2, 2009 10:41:38 GMT -6 jgordon1 said:

Most of my guys play both ways so I have to get them during punt or after a score..sometimes we will even sub out so I can talk to who I need

I will likely encounter this situation frequently too...

Do you feel that you are able to get your points across clearly in the limited time avalible?

no, We have actuially called timeouts and brought the board onto the field to make adjustments in the middle of a drive

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Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day Nov 2, 2009 19:01:10 GMT -6

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Post by wingtol on Nov 2, 2009 19:01:10 GMT -6

That's the situation I am in and have been for several years. We have many guys going both ways so it's not like I have a whole unit sitting there on the sidelines at any one time. I am up in the booth so I have the ast OL coach signal in the D and I am always talking to him. I try to get as much info to the guys who are not on D as possible. I also think being prepared well and having well defined termenoligy can help a ton in this situaiton. "Tell so and so to tell the LG to make a MEG call when they line up like this" I find that helps a lot as well.

Having both an O and D responsibility on game-day

Post by sneakyben on Nov 2, 2009 4:59:58 GMT -6

Post by mariner42 on Nov 2, 2009 8:17:00 GMT -6

Post by coachbw on Nov 2, 2009 9:52:56 GMT -6

Post by phantom on Nov 2, 2009 9:59:08 GMT -6

Post by jgordon1 on Nov 2, 2009 10:41:38 GMT -6

Post by sneakyben on Nov 2, 2009 12:03:04 GMT -6

Post by coachbdud on Nov 2, 2009 12:05:31 GMT -6

Post by jgordon1 on Nov 2, 2009 12:38:34 GMT -6

Post by wingtol on Nov 2, 2009 19:01:10 GMT -6