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Post by davecisar on Nov 1, 2009 1:14:03 GMT -6
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Post by alneufeld on Nov 2, 2009 19:00:47 GMT -6
Wow. That was quite deliberate and he only did it when he saw the players helmet was off. I think 2 games may not be enough but I am not sure about the criminal proceedings.
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Post by airman on Nov 2, 2009 19:10:15 GMT -6
I am surprised they even allow tackle football in the peoples republic of Massachusetts.
I think keeping courts out of sports is a good thing. 2 games might not be enough for my taste.
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Post by robd on Nov 3, 2009 8:53:54 GMT -6
Once down this road, where will it stop? Curve ball doesn't break for a pitcher, hits a batter in the face...batter's parents say it was intentional...to court we go. Thats not even close to the same thing as this kid did. He intentionally headbutted the other kid after his helmet came off. It is very obvious he did it on purpose and knew the helmet was off. That is intentionally causing harm/injury. That dont belong in any sport. |
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Post by warriorhog51 on Nov 3, 2009 10:06:39 GMT -6
My favorite part of the video was when the "victim's" lawyer talked about how violent high school football has become. A statement like that indicates to me that he was never an athlete, let alone a football player. If he thinks that high school football is just now becoming violent then he must have been asleep for the last 100 years. It has always been a violent game. I won't disagree that high school kids are trying to mimic professional players more and more, which I think is leading to a break down in fundamentals and, frankly, discipline. I see more and more kids just wanting to make a big play, and get what is their's instead of doing things the way they are coached and playing within the scheme they have been taught. I think we all need to follow this case closely. The kid should definitely be punished, probably more than two games. I hope the judge who is assigned to this case was an athlete, and throws it right out the window. Let the coaches, administrators, and parents handle it. There are more important issues that our courts should be dealing with than this.
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 4, 2009 15:34:11 GMT -6
he should plead "temporary insanity" ... as he was incapable of knowing the nature of the alleged "criminal act" because he was not in position to identify whether his act was legal or illegal, at the time of performing the "crime".
agree ... slippery slope.
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Post by airman on Nov 4, 2009 15:48:20 GMT -6
he should plead "temporary insanity" ... as he was incapable of knowing the nature of the alleged "criminal act" because he was not in position to identify whether his act was legal or illegal, at the time of performing the "crime". agree ... slippery slope. it is not a crime it is a laps is moral judgment |
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Post by Coach JR on Nov 4, 2009 15:53:59 GMT -6
Once down this road, where will it stop? Curve ball doesn't break for a pitcher, hits a batter in the face...batter's parents say it was intentional...to court we go. Thats not even close to the same thing as this kid did. He intentionally headbutted the other kid after his helmet came off. It is very obvious he did it on purpose and knew the helmet was off. That is intentionally causing harm/injury. That dont belong in any sport. Can't condone what the kid did, but I've never liked the "brushback pitch" in baseball, or the just plain "bean-ball". Both ARE intentional, and BOTH can result in serious injury and even death. Baseball folks will tell you "it's part of the game". |
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Post by robd on Nov 4, 2009 16:45:49 GMT -6
Except a brush back pitch is meant to be close, not make contact, plus there is time to move, not like when a guy is right on top of you and slams his helmet into your forehead after your helmet came off and knew exactly what he was doing. So say this is the kids last game of his senior year, he dont like a player or something this player did and decides to do something like this, he should basically get no punishment at all according to most on here. What he did, how he did it deserves punishment outside of the game. I do see how criminal charge could change how players play, or change the game all together, but what can you do? Im not saying he should get jail time,,, but needs to be something.
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Post by los on Nov 4, 2009 22:52:12 GMT -6
I agree robd.....the kid oughta get some "special" punishment for this crap......honestly, it looks like to me, that he "pushed" the other kids helmet off, then head butted him....not "temporary insanity", but pre-meditated thuggery?.......now....could the headbutter have been retaliating from an earlier "punch to the groin" or some other indiscrepancy in the pile, by the head buttee, that we didn't see on the previous play/s = sure.....kinda seems like it, since the kid on defense, really didn't care anything about finding the ball, just getting some payback on this particular o-lineman? Maybe this will all come out if it does get to court? In any case, retaliating or not, its still stupid and undisciplined and he'd be thru playing for the year, maybe forever,on my team, if it was up to me......The kid could have been seriously injured or worse.....I'll be brutally honest here, if it was "one of my kids", that got headbutted like that....a court case might be "a blessing in disguise", to this guy?....  .....On another note, Catholic school sure has changed, from the old days when I went.....I've seen kids get kicked out of Catholic school for "waaay less" than this.....if we'd have done something like this while representing our school.....there would have literally been "hell to pay"  |
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.....On another note, Catholic school sure has changed, from the old days when I went.....I've seen kids get kicked out of Catholic school for "waaay less" than this.....if we'd have done something like this while representing our school.....there would have literally been "hell to pay" 