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Post by julien on Oct 14, 2009 0:22:23 GMT -6
I did not want to hijacked the Scout Team QB thread so here's my question:
How do you do scout team when you have a 30men roster?
Offensively, we run the wild bunch but teams we faced play power I, Wing-T or Spread, just to name a few.
I do not find enough time to teach my players other offensive plays.
Am I missing something here?
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 14, 2009 6:22:28 GMT -6
If your OL knows the basic blocks -- a down block, reach, chip/combo, trap, etc...... then just draw up large 5x7 note cards (heavy stock will last longer) the plays that you want the scout offense to show of the team you will be facing. Then you can laminate them, punch a hole in 1 corner and put them on a ring.
That way when the scout offense is in the huddle, the RG doesn't need to know the offensive scheme, all he needs to do is look at the card for the circle that represents the RG and you tell him 'block down on the DT'. And make sure to draw the defense that he will be seeing, especially if you run more that 1 defensive front. You don't need the scout O to fully understand all the nuances of each offense, just 'you block him' and 'you block him' and 'you run here' or 'you run this route and you throw the ball here or here'
If the teams you face year after year run the same offense, I would draw/print the plays up on 8x11 paper (card stock) and place each one in a plastic page protector and then put them in a notebook. That way you can have your Wing T notebook of plays, a Power I notebook of plays, or it can be Team Super Fly's notebook of plays.
I would also label them so that for future reference you can organize them. We write the name of the play at the top like the title of the page, then we also assign each one a number like R1 for run play #1 or P4 for pass play #4, etc....That way when you make out a script to have during your team defense segment, your scout team coach can look at the script and say on series 1 1st and 10 your DC wants to see the buck sweep, all the coach that is running the scout team needs to do is find R1 (or what ever the card number is for the buck sweep) and show it to the offense.
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Post by brophy on Oct 14, 2009 6:44:16 GMT -6
half line....
use trash cans (for Oline or other landmarks)
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Post by coachks on Oct 14, 2009 7:35:09 GMT -6
We do the same as Coachwoodall, just less elaborate.
Draw up the plays on a sheet of paper (Computer paper), throw them in a notebook with page protectors and show them in the huddle. For the lineman this usually works out great (I mean, they can only block in 2 directions). The backs usually mess some things up (spacing/timing), but it happens.
We also try and use as much of our own terminology as we can, and we'll modify some little details so our kids can do it better.
Defensively, we also use a lot of half line. The ineptitude of our scout teams (Lack of talent, scout team coaches going off script, general poor play) forced us to lineup backup defenders in a half life for our inside run game. We get a better look with backup DL pretending to be OL because 1) They never confuse the blocking rules (they know down block/base out, we just tell them every play), 2) With only half a team, they never get to take plays off without a coach noticing 3) They tend to like contact a little more than the offensive guys.
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Post by bulldogoption on Oct 14, 2009 8:09:39 GMT -6
Time is your ENEMY.
Draw up scout cards as folks have mentioned. Draw in YOUR Defenders EXACTLY where they will be lined up. That way the scout offense kids only focus on their position and are confident that defender will be where it shows he will be.
I've even drawn up scout DEFENSE cards to practice against a certain defensive reaction/stunt/coverage.
Half Line!!!! If you are short on numbers and want to get a real speed look, go ones on ones in a half line situation.
It takes time to get everything thought out and drawn up ahead of time, but that helps you squeeze every second from practice that you can.
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Post by coach31 on Oct 14, 2009 8:12:51 GMT -6
Guys that are working halfline, how much Wing-T or Power/Counter do you see. We have 4 Wing-T teams on the schedule and I can't figure out a way to show that stuff half line
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Post by julien on Oct 14, 2009 9:21:55 GMT -6
Thanks for the tips coaches! I've got a lot of plays to draw now...
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Post by bulldogoption on Oct 14, 2009 10:34:59 GMT -6
Guys that are working halfline, how much Wing-T or Power/Counter do you see. We have 4 Wing-T teams on the schedule and I can't figure out a way to show that stuff half line 1/2 Line is tricky with Wing T What I did was this....... I ran all the plays vs the interior of the defense, DTs, DEs, ILBs... Then I ran strong side plays vs the strong side defense.....power, down, buck, trap, etc.... and weak side vs. weak side defense......belly, belly option, etc.... I had to show counter to both sides.....strong side to get them to recognize it and start screaming counter, and weak side to see how to defend it.... 1/2 line isn't really 1/2 line vs. wing T....You need one half of the offense PLUS another guard and halfback.....
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Post by coachriley on Oct 14, 2009 22:45:38 GMT -6
At my old school, we did the card stock thing. But we went full sheets of card stock and drew up the plays against our defense and how we would align to it. Get the scout team in the huddle and have an assistant coach hold the card over head so everybody can see the play. I like that method because if you are going to play most of the same teams, year in and year out, then you can just create a file on them to use next year and not have to draw up anything new. That is of course, if they dont change head coaches and offenses.
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