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Post by assistantcoachp on Sept 15, 2009 9:06:45 GMT -6
Right now I'm a position coach and have been for several years, as our HC has been our OC as well. I've always been on board and did my part as a position coach.
My goal is to get promoted and become an OC, or at least be in a position where I can be more involved in game planning and play calling, but I feel I may not get my chance where I'm at now.
Is it in my best interest to express my goals of being more involved with my HC, or should I just keep quiet and show my worth through my continued hard work and knowlege?
Are there any other coaches who've had to wait their turn for a few years, and if so what advice do you have?
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Post by airraider on Sept 15, 2009 9:21:30 GMT -6
Right now I'm a position coach and have been for several years, as our HC has been our OC as well. I've always been on board and did my part as a position coach. My goal is to get promoted and become an OC, or at least be in a position where I can be more involved in game planning and play calling, but I feel I may not get my chance where I'm at now. Is it in my best interest to express my goals of being more involved with my HC, or should I just keep quiet and show my worth through my continued hard work and knowlege? Are there any other coaches who've had to wait their turn for a few years, and if so what advice do you have? Show through actions.. be attentive.. eager.. and around.. I can almost promise you that I can draw up a Pro I offense.. and ask my DL coach to put our front 4 in place in our base defense.. and he would not know how to do.. that is sad.. very sad.. My Oline coach.. my DC.. and.. thats is.. are either good coaches.. (DC) or will be good coaches (OL).. the rest.. drawing a check.. I put in 5 years as a volunteer before I got my turn.. and even then my turn came with huge boundries.. Just keep pluggin along and being a good assistant.. because those are really hard to find.. and your time will come.. |
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Post by airraid77 on Sept 15, 2009 12:28:15 GMT -6
go to clinics. put yourself outtheir. I have been offered two jobs this past year just showing up and saying hello. Their are a lot of coaches looking for quality assistances. Lot of coaches just drawing check and the bosses know it.
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coachriley
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Post by coachriley on Sept 15, 2009 21:21:33 GMT -6
Right now I'm a position coach and have been for several years, as our HC has been our OC as well. I've always been on board and did my part as a position coach. My goal is to get promoted and become an OC, or at least be in a position where I can be more involved in game planning and play calling, but I feel I may not get my chance where I'm at now. Is it in my best interest to express my goals of being more involved with my HC, or should I just keep quiet and show my worth through my continued hard work and knowlege? Are there any other coaches who've had to wait their turn for a few years, and if so what advice do you have? I can almost promise you that I can draw up a Pro I offense.. and ask my DL coach to put our front 4 in place in our base defense.. and he would not know how to do.. that is sad.. very sad.. I dont know if it was just me or what, but last year when I was a varsity assistant, I wanted to know (and did know), what every player did on 80% of the plays. I wanted to know the exact footwork for every back, linemen and receiver. Defense I am still playing a bit of catch-up, but I always thought that you should try to know as much as possible. Of course, I am just a 2nd year coach so im still learning the types of coaches out there. |
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Post by coachorr on Sept 15, 2009 21:51:54 GMT -6
Right now I'm a position coach and have been for several years, as our HC has been our OC as well. I've always been on board and did my part as a position coach. My goal is to get promoted and become an OC, or at least be in a position where I can be more involved in game planning and play calling, but I feel I may not get my chance where I'm at now. Is it in my best interest to express my goals of being more involved with my HC, or should I just keep quiet and show my worth through my continued hard work and knowlege? Are there any other coaches who've had to wait their turn for a few years, and if so what advice do you have? Show through actions.. be attentive.. eager.. and around.. I can almost promise you that I can draw up a Pro I offense.. and ask my DL coach to put our front 4 in place in our base defense.. and he would not know how to do.. that is sad.. very sad.. My Oline coach.. my DC.. and.. thats is.. are either good coaches.. (DC) or will be good coaches (OL).. the rest.. drawing a check.. WTF? |
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Post by airraider on Sept 15, 2009 21:55:53 GMT -6
Show through actions.. be attentive.. eager.. and around.. I can almost promise you that I can draw up a Pro I offense.. and ask my DL coach to put our front 4 in place in our base defense.. and he would not know how to do.. that is sad.. very sad.. My Oline coach.. my DC.. and.. thats is.. are either good coaches.. (DC) or will be good coaches (OL).. the rest.. drawing a check.. WTF? He validate that point today when I sent D-linemen to him and he told them that we would have a strong side 1 tech. |
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Post by kylem56 on Sept 16, 2009 8:19:24 GMT -6
Just keep working hard and learn the little details of every position. Know the whys of play calls. I would also express to the HC that you would like to help out in the gameplan so you can learn. I don't see why he would object. I would keep working hard but at least express something to the HC
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ballcoach20
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Post by ballcoach20 on Sept 16, 2009 8:25:27 GMT -6
Keep working and be the best assistant you can be. Go to clinics, visit other staffs in the off season that run what you like, learn both sides of the ball. Your opportunity will come. Know his offense better than he knows it. Depending on how long you have been your HC's assistant, you should express to him your future goals. A GOOD HC will want the best for you and should help you in any way. HC are only as good as the assistants around him. Be the best assistant you can be while learning and developing the offense or defense you want to run when you get that opportunity. A great coach told me, "grow where you are." Be a student of the game and never stop learning. Be Patient and Good Luck!
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Post by dubber on Sept 16, 2009 8:38:06 GMT -6
I guess for you HC's out there, how would you want an assistant who wants more responsibilities to earn that?
Obviously through his actions, but would you want him to tell you that is what he wants, or is this an ego assult on the current play-caller?
For staffs where the OC and header are different, what does the position guy do?
I know what I did, and you guys tell me if this seems fine.....
Our OC was a lock for a HC gig (we thought), I told our Header that I at least want an interview. Even if he thinks I'm not ready, I would appreciate the experience.
He seemed receptive to that (later I found out he had an heir picked out, but he would've at least let me stumble through an interview).
I think as long as honesty is coupled with respect, you should be ok to voice those type fo things to your header.
But, I am NOT an HC, so I'd like you guys' opines.........
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Post by mcgann19 on Sept 16, 2009 9:31:45 GMT -6
go to clinics. put yourself outtheir. I have been offered two jobs this past year just showing up and saying hello. Their are a lot of coaches looking for quality assistances. Lot of coaches just drawing check and the bosses know it. I totally agree with airraid77. Being out there is what will get you opportunities, but when they come you gotta have the credentials too! Get to clinics, volunteer etc. . . Good things will come be assertive but not overly aggressive. I am always at the fields, clinics, and games. I do it because I love it and would rather be at the field then anywhere else. Remember sometimes these things take years so don't get impatient. Good luck! |
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Post by coachcb on Sept 16, 2009 12:26:37 GMT -6
1. Work hard, learn your position.
2. Remain LOYAL, to the end; there's generally ebough nay-sayers outside of a program. Don't be one within.
3. Keep quiet unless you really do have something beneficial to add. I coach defese exclusively as a sophomore DC and secodary coach. In defensive meetings, we all toss in our two cents; but that's because we know the scheme inside and out.
When the offensive guys ask for input from us, I only open my mouth if it's well within their scheme. For example, I suggested that we run Oregon State's fly sweep/IZ combo; already had it in from the gun, might as well do it under center.
Input from assistants is a good thing, as long as it fits what you're doing. I've heard WAYY to many coach's say "Well, I did this on Madden" or "I saw this on Monday Night Football."
4. Remember, you're development as a coach is dependent on the staff you're around. If they're good coaches and you're comfortable, keep on learning from them. And as people have pointed out GO TO CLINICS...Been on staffs where no one went to clinics the school would pay for, they never kept learning as coaches and the program never got better.
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