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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 7, 2009 9:13:15 GMT -6
Any theories on these firings? I mean for some of these, I feel like if you're a first year HC and it won't work, then might as well just do it now before the season. I felt like that was the Todd Haley/Kansas City/Chan Gailey one. That Haley was a longtime OC and just kind of wanted it his way. The other two are weirder. In Buffalo the guy who left has blasted the HC thingy Jauron saying he wanted to run a "pop warner offense." In Tampa, Raheem Morris said that Jagodzinski didn't know "schemes enough," was probably "a better head coach or position coach than coordinator," and wasn't focused on details, but other than that was vague. (They did get lucky because Greg Olson who they promoted is very good.) Any ideas? Like I said, I think if it wasn't going to work it is probably for the best to do it now, but some of these statements are bizarre. Thought maybe we should start a new thread here, so I cut and pasted Chris's post to this one. I think this is troubling, especially the Dick Jauron situation. Why did you hire this guy. YOu have been in the league for quite a while, I would think you could do a better job in the interview process. That is my main concern. What does this say about the interview process these guys are conducting? I would LOVE to hear what those coaches would say they would do next time during the process to avoid this from happening again. |
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Post by coachinghopeful on Sept 7, 2009 13:40:01 GMT -6
I'm thinking that what happened in Buffalo was probably because of Turk Schonert's attitude more than anything else. If the guy's going to the media whining about how he got fired because his HC wanted a "pop warner offense" and he wouldn't help run it, I'd suspect he was probably a problem to work with. Might as well dump the guy now before he can cause problems during the season. What he did in the media speaks volumes about his ego. I'm thinking that the interview process should've been done better, but some guys will say anything to get a job they want and he'd been with the team since 2006 so they must've thought they had some feel for his character.
The Jagodzinski thing... I've heard that Jagodzinski was being blamed for Josh Freeman struggling in the preseason. I suspect a bigger personality conflict there too--Jagodzinski had been a successful HC, while Morris has never even coached offense in his career. Since the Bucs will probably suck this year, they may use the excuse of hiring Jagodzinski in the first place as an excuse for why their offense is bad all season.
It's interesting that both of these cases involve coaches who gripe about the offense not being "complex" enough. The NFL orthodoxy is that everything needs to be super complicated to take advantage of minutia like matchups on backup DBs, multiple subtle variations of coverages, etc, all while running basically the same 30 or so things that Chris listed on his blog a while back. What Juaron wanted wasn't complex enough for Schonert, and I read Jagodzinski's lack of "detail oriented-ness" as a way of signifying that he may have wanted to simplify things to a level beyond what Morris thought could work (and the Bucs struggles in the preseason gave him confirmation of this). One look at Jagodzinski's resume on Wikipedia shows me that the man should be familiar with the passing game and certainly OL play, though the media's now portraying him as a clueless buffoon who might've gotten his playbook off Madden.
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