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Post by coachcb on Aug 31, 2009 11:12:26 GMT -6
Those that know me well around here understand that I am S&C guy in a big way. I have a lot of education and experience in the field and have developed some firm opinions with respect to what S&C is all about. Personally, I feel that you use your off season workouts to develop athletic performance and prevent injuries. On a secondary note, the weight room is a great place to develop tradition among your athletes. However, I have a problem with those coaches that use off season workouts to make players "tougher': running them until they puke, etc, etc. But, I would like to hear some other opinions on the subject; it's always a great topic of discussion. Also, moderators, since this is a tie in with the current Rod/Barwis situation, I would ask that you leave this on the General Board; we'll get a better discussion.
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Post by windigo on Aug 31, 2009 11:43:05 GMT -6
Okay as a S&C coach do you believe it is possible for a natural player to handle the kind of volume that the Michigan Players are reporting that their S&C coach required?
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Post by coachcb on Aug 31, 2009 12:00:51 GMT -6
Okay as a S&C coach do you believe it is possible for a natural player to handle the kind of volume that the Michigan Players are reporting that their S&C coach required? If what they are saying is true; NO, I don't believe so. Plus, if they are have a lot of natural skill, then I don't see any point to breaking them down the way they have been. If you've got a diamond, you polish it; you don't squeeze it until you have a lump of coal. As I stated in that thread, I don't agree with Barwis training methods, I was a fan of his workouts until some things outside of the current news report came to light. But, like I said, the report isn't so much about the intensity of the workouts as it is the vast amount of time they're forcing the players to put in. Allegedly, of course. Now, if there are some NCAA violations going on; then there will be consequences. But, for the time being, I'll state my disagreements with Barwis training methods, but if he's following NCAA guidelines in terms of time put in, then it's really just conflict in philosophies. Outside of that, I'm really on the fence with the whole thing.
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Post by jgordon1 on Aug 31, 2009 20:18:16 GMT -6
Had a coach once say that not only are we building bodies in the weightroom..we are also building excitement....if you read any of Brophy's stuff..this is where team is built
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 31, 2009 22:05:07 GMT -6
Pretty much exactly as you said it, Coach. Building athletes, preventing injuries, creating tradition and team. No one is more important to a program than the S&C guy, whoever it is.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 1, 2009 13:16:12 GMT -6
It's good to hear folks out there agree with me; I feel like the strength and conditioning field is taking a step in the right direction. More science, less caveman.
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Post by brophy on Sept 1, 2009 13:57:50 GMT -6
you make it sound like the 'prison-yard workouts' of bicep curl and bench press marathons are a bad thing.....[/sarcasm]
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Post by coachcb on Sept 1, 2009 18:58:29 GMT -6
you make it sound like the 'prison-yard workouts' of bicep curl and bench press marathons are a bad thing.....[/sarcasm] I am huge proponent of three hours of tire flips and tricep extensions. You've got to toss in some 1600 yard interval runs afterward as well. We also rotate some Cross-Fit training in there as well; give the kids a breal.
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