JMC
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Post by JMC on Aug 19, 2009 8:18:27 GMT -6
Coaches,
Has anyone heard of a new system with wrist bands. I was talking to a friend and he said they are using a system where the wrist band tells the lineman who to block and skill position their assignments. The wrist bands don't have the plays on them, they just tell the kids what to do when the play is called in from the side line. I'd never heard of anything like it, has anyone else.
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Post by emptybackfield on Aug 19, 2009 8:34:03 GMT -6
We have both a linemen wristband and a skill wristband. The linemen wristband has run play names and protections on it. The skill wristband has the name of the play. I don't understand how you can just give someone an assignment...very interesting.
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Post by JMC on Aug 19, 2009 8:47:33 GMT -6
Coach,
I thought the same, thing but he says they all have one wrist band, and when they hear the play which they are yelling in, and they will never yell the same word in twice during a game it tells the skill kids what to run, and the lineman who to block. Whether it be big on big, or go to a linebacker.
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Post by kcbazooka on Aug 19, 2009 9:25:07 GMT -6
We do something similar -- our linemen wrist bands tell the lineman their blocking rules for example if the RG hears a play ending in a #3 - his wrist band would tell him to long pull.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Aug 19, 2009 16:37:25 GMT -6
We did ours like that starting last year. Nothing special - you just have to be good at abbreviating and the kids have to learn what those abbreviations mean.
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Post by coachdawhip on Aug 19, 2009 20:48:43 GMT -6
Kind of like the Tony Franklin System and other offspring wristbands.
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Post by coache67 on Aug 19, 2009 22:47:37 GMT -6
New wristband???
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Post by hsrose on Aug 20, 2009 8:35:35 GMT -6
A coach in our area just had the assignments on the bands. Had the number, alignment, assignment, and motion (for backs). They would have position-specific wrist bands. No mention of trap or zone, or lead or anything play-related. If they wanted to put a player in a new position all the player had to do was what was on the band, not learn a whole new set of assignments because he went from a TE to a G or RB to WR. Not that hard to setup and actually forces you to think about all the details of the play. They also did this to change their formations - they didn't really have formations, just alignments. They would run the same play (set of assignments) with alignments all over the place. Said it made scouting much more difficult.
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Post by coachbdud on Aug 20, 2009 11:04:34 GMT -6
Seems like a fairly simple concept, just takes a lot of work from the coaches up front to create the wristbands and make sure everything matches up.
You need 11 different wrsitbands, one for each position and it tells them exactly what to do.
For the OL you tell them each their individual job , your guy can look down and see he has down block, or OZ Right, or he has to pull, or pass set. Whatever his specific assignment is. He doesnt need to remember plays, he just does what his wristband tells him to
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Post by brophy on Aug 20, 2009 11:25:50 GMT -6
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Post by coachbdud on Aug 20, 2009 13:20:24 GMT -6
you mean like " RED 27" ---- Red column of wristband, play #27 = "Ace 95 F-Slow Lt." and on the wristband of the LG it reads, " F Slow Lt"? or for the H, it reads, " 5 Qk. Out"Hmmm, interesting NEW concept. Ive known coaches who have done it. I love the idea, and if i were the HC then we would do it. You dont have to spend as much time memorizing plays because the OL dont need to know the plays. Just understand the assignment written on the band. It is just a ton of work upfront... You have to come up with rules that will work against any front, so the assignments never change. Then you have to make sure each band is accurate as to what play, and make sure the assignment indicated is alright. I think the only one who needs the play name is the QB. All 10 other players get their specific assignment |
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Post by RENO6 on Aug 20, 2009 14:38:28 GMT -6
Here's what we're doing and to be honest I am really exicted about it.
Last year, we were a no huddle team that signaled in plays. It seemed like we took way too long to get the plays in and we were having too many mistakes by our players. I was wondering if we should go to a wristband to help with these issues. The rest of the staff didn't want to so I started a poll on this site and the majority of the people said wristbands have less mistakes. That was all I needed to here.
Through out the spring and summer I made a wristband for every position vs. ever defensive front which correlated with each play we have. This was a lot of work but if it helps the kids do well, the amount of work I put in doesn't matter.
We retaught the offense and never used any wristbands. We taught everything as signals and never let on anything about the wristbands.
Today, we will review all plays we have learned and then hand out wristbands. From now on we will be able to focus on technique in practice and not play memorization or introduction.
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Post by coachjmcs on Aug 20, 2009 21:10:52 GMT -6
you mean like " RED 27" ---- Red column of wristband, play #27 = "Ace 95 F-Slow Lt." and on the wristband of the LG it reads, " F Slow Lt"? or for the H, it reads, " 5 Qk. Out"Hmmm, interesting NEW concept. Ive known coaches who have done it. I love the idea, and if i were the HC then we would do it. You dont have to spend as much time memorizing plays because the OL dont need to know the plays. Just understand the assignment written on the band. It is just a ton of work upfront... You have to come up with rules that will work against any front, so the assignments never change. Then you have to make sure each band is accurate as to what play, and make sure the assignment indicated is alright. I think the only one who needs the play name is the QB. All 10 other players get their specific assignment I think one of the benefits would be that you wouldn't really have to make sure that the stuff on the bands would work for any front jst the ones that you are playing that week. You could simply change the wristband for your opponent . Opens a whole realm of possibilities. |
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Post by cujo on Aug 21, 2009 7:38:26 GMT -6
We do it. And it's not new, I worked with a wonderful Offensive Co-Ordinator named Sean Jackson, and he was doing it I believe in 2000.
Kids play more aggressive when they are sure of what they are doing.
Advantages- 1. Of course, fewer missed assignemnts
2. Kids by game 3 already know the assignment because tthey are reinforced each time you call it in practice and games.
3. A right tackle who has to move to left, the learning curve is easier.
4. An player coming in for an injured player will be more confident.
5. Once done you can add and delete plays as you wish, learning curve on new plays is easier.
There are more but you get it!
Disadvantages.
1. TON OF WORK UPFRONT, not to mention, cutting wristbands laminating, only to find out wednesday that you pu the wrong route, etc. I'm a Idiot!
2.Hard to make adjustments, not impossible. We are a gap seal team, so that makes it easier!
I know there are more , but I love it and I am th one who does it.
the ones who commented were right, good and bad,but I love the fact that when it is third and one in the fourth and the kids are dead tired they have ONEnore thing in their arsenal to make the right play!!!
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Post by shamespiral on Aug 22, 2009 7:43:29 GMT -6
A couple of years ago when we were very "limited" at the reciever position, we did this with some of our guys. Works great. Guys stopped getting yelled at and coaches stopped yelling at them. They started running the correct routes and everyone was happy.
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Post by coachwilley on Aug 22, 2009 14:23:17 GMT -6
We went to this for this year. As someone alluded to earlier...it is a lot of work and it's meticulous. We're on week two and it seems I find a mistake everyday. I'll have one assignment that isn't right...or doesn't work against an odd front. you also have to double check how the assignments change as formations change. The WR's love it. The young O-Lineman love it, but the smarter lineman don't like not knowing what the play is....I really like it.
I'm just worried as the running game package increases...you almost need a cell for both odd and even fronts. how many games do you play where the other team shows up with a defense they didn't show on film...
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Post by alneufeld on Aug 22, 2009 18:11:43 GMT -6
Sounds like a good idea, but with my teaching load, that is too much. KISS principle, reps in practice and execution works for me.
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Post by RENO6 on Aug 25, 2009 8:57:36 GMT -6
Bad news fellas:
I thought I was going to love this but I hate being held to the play call sheet to get plays in. It totally destroys my feel for the game.
We will keep the wristband but only use it when we have plays set and ready to go. This way we can be really High Tempo.
We had a scrimmage on Saturday and I hated refering to my call sheet. My eyes were not on the field enough. We will be mostly signals now.
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Post by rocketcoach on Aug 25, 2009 9:01:56 GMT -6
We use wristbands for our linemen that have their blocking rules for our 5 base plays. Three columns (Play) (Playside rule) (Backside rule). It makes it easy for the kids to learn their assignments. We don't get kids coming back asking who do I block. With the youger kids if they do come back asking that we always say "What does your wristband say?"
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Post by dubber on Aug 25, 2009 9:29:42 GMT -6
Bad news fellas: I thought I was going to love this but I hate being held to the play call sheet to get plays in. It totally destroys my feel for the game. We will keep the wristband but only use it when we have plays set and ready to go. This way we can be really High Tempo. We had a scrimmage on Saturday and I hated refering to my call sheet. My eyes were not on the field enough. We will be mostly signals now. Is your call sheet organized how you want it? Our call sheet is divided into runs, screens, paps, passes, etc. If we know we want to run smash, we find the "passes" section, find smash, and then see that the corresponding wristband cell is Blue 7. It takes 3 seconds for us. I understand limiting the wristband to assignments only. However, we basically have an OL wristband and a skills wristband. Partially because we expect the kids to understand what everybody does on "Wheel Rt." and partially because our offense is so simple and partially because we're lazy  |
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Post by RENO6 on Aug 25, 2009 13:20:44 GMT -6
With the combination of formations, motions, and plays I find it much easier just to tell my signaler what to send in than using the play sheet.
I really wanted to do the wristband & we will for uptempo but it is really difficult to use a play sheet when you know you don't need to.
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