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Post by coachtut on Aug 10, 2009 8:08:59 GMT -6
Hey guys, I'm at work so I need your help. The sainted six are: 1. Power 2. Sweep 3. Wingback Reverse 4. BB Wedge 5. FB Wedge 6. AND  ? I forgot number six!!!!!! HELP!!!!! LOL |
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Post by coachtut on Aug 10, 2009 8:13:38 GMT -6
Number six is Sweep Pass. I remembered. lol
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Post by davecisar on Aug 10, 2009 8:59:17 GMT -6
It is BB trap for the older kids, BB wedge for the younger
#7 per the book is 16 pass
However with the older kids we also run BB wedge out of spinner or mouse series which involves motion
Last 2 seasons at age 7-9 those kids have run full series of mouse plays including mouse 16 pass
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Post by eickst on Aug 10, 2009 11:56:45 GMT -6
Dave I have the little ones and there is NO WAY I am not putting in a trap play. They KILL at this level.
So for me (7-8 yr olds) my sainted six are
Power
Sweep
Reverse
FB Wedge
BB Trap
Sweep Pass
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Post by davecisar on Aug 10, 2009 12:20:26 GMT -6
I love the trap at that age too, we run both But many coaches I work with have a problem with the BB sitting an waiting for the trapper to make the block. Some of those young kids get a little anxious and want to run right into the unblocked man. Difference between real well coached team and very average coaching etc. I have to assume, good but not great coaching etc and average, not exceptional kids Talking with 1000s of guys, quite a few struggle with the BB trap at that age group and probably why I never saw it in any playbooks I researched or people I spoke to Tony Holland in Baltimore averaged over 20 ypc with it last year with his 5-7s etc, so it's doable for a guy like you Im sure. But what do I know  |
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Post by coachriley on Aug 24, 2009 0:17:38 GMT -6
Dave, if you wouldnt mind, could you explain how you run your BB trap? I am putting in the single wing this year, and would love as much info as possible.
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 25, 2009 12:44:15 GMT -6
I love the trap at that age too, we run both But many coaches I work with have a problem with the BB sitting an waiting for the trapper to make the block. Some of those young kids get a little anxious and want to run right into the unblocked man. Difference between real well coached team and very average coaching etc. I have to assume, good but not great coaching etc and average, not exceptional kids Talking with 1000s of guys, quite a few struggle with the BB trap at that age group and probably why I never saw it in any playbooks I researched or people I spoke to I think a big contributing factor was that most of the classic single wing literature didn't have the BB in position to take snaps. They would have the FB & TB back far enough that the defense could usually see the snap; they may not have been able to tell which one of the FB & TB got the ball when they crossed paths, but even if there was a close-up back in position to take the snap, as in a short punt or Owen A formation, they couldn't have that back crouch and hide the ball without the defense figuring out that's where it was, because that'd be the only snap they couldn't see. So everyone needs to be convinced that with your formation you can snap to your BB while the other backs execute fakes, and that the BB can then sit there and wait for the hole to open, with the defense usually not realizing he had the ball, because they can't see snaps to the FB & TB either. It's not just the young players being anxious; the coaches have to be sold enough to impress on the players the importance of waiting for that block. But they also have to make sure that short snap isn't a high one, because the BB's shoulder coming up is a giveaway. |
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Post by davecisar on Aug 25, 2009 13:31:55 GMT -6
Dave, if you wouldnt mind, could you explain how you run your BB trap? I am putting in the single wing this year, and would love as much info as possible. 1&2 fake off tackle strong BB takes snap waits for a full count and runs inside the weakside trap block- he stays very low, then bursts through the parted sea Center- Moma, man on man away LG- gap, down LE- near backer RG- pulls left, traps unblocked DT |
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