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Post by utchuckd on Aug 5, 2009 8:00:08 GMT -6
Do you play your MPP's on one side of the ball or both? Pros? Cons?
Btw, is it MPP or MMP? What's it stand for? Thx.
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Post by chadbartlett on Aug 5, 2009 8:32:08 GMT -6
Haha, I have no idea what it satands for. Must Play Players? Maybe. I use them on both sides. My youth team has a really strong front 4, with pretty good linebackers. Therefore, I put my weak players in at safety, or sometimes even at DT and let the other DT help in the A. On offense, I do not know what I will do this year because I am running double wing. This is my first year doing so so I do not know where you should put your weakest players? Last year I ran old Yale Y Offense...I would put them at 3 back or backside tight end.
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Post by davecisar on Aug 5, 2009 8:39:24 GMT -6
Every one of our players has a position on offense and defense
Our Minimum Play Players play one side of the ball or the other until we get a 3 TD lead, then they play both. It is much easier for us to track them that way.
BTW if you were to play us and put your MMPs at DB we are going to score right now, we have a coach whose only job it is to track MMP players and we have several plays that isolate the safety or corner if they decide to go that route. We are a no huddle team as well, so we can call the play on the fly etc
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Post by coachdoug on Aug 5, 2009 8:56:31 GMT -6
Do you play your MPP's on one side of the ball or both? Pros? Cons? Btw, is it MPP or MMP? What's it stand for? Thx. For me, it's MPP ("Minimum Play Players"), but if someone writes MMP, I know what he means. Similar to Dave, each MPP on our team has a position on one side of the ball where he gets his minimum plays, but we're prepared to play them on both sides of the ball if we get a substantial lead. On offense, they typically play WR or OL, and on defense, they typically play DL. We generally don't ever put a MPP at DB or OLB. I talked about this more in-depth on another thread. |
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 5, 2009 9:33:58 GMT -6
If a down winds up being repeated because of an accepted live ball penalty, does it count as a play for the players' play count?
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 5, 2009 9:53:00 GMT -6
Not in our league, bob. Also, stuff like taking a knee while MPP's are out there doesn't count against their required plays either (except at the end of the game I think, but we have a rule that if a player hasn't been in yet by the start of the 4th q then he goes in then till he gets his required plays).
Dave- went back and reread the post on your blog where you break down the number of players and what categories they fit into (studs, good, average, mpp). Great stuff, looking at it from that type of concept helps me see it better as how to get the best team on the field both ways while making sure the lesser guys are still contributing.
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Post by coachdoug on Aug 5, 2009 11:16:10 GMT -6
We have the same rules as utchuckd - plays replayed due to penalty, free kicks, PATs, and non-action plays (taking a knee, spiking the ball, etc) do NOT count towards minimum plays, and any player whose min play requirement is not completed by the end of the 3rd quarter must enter the game and remain in the game until his min plays are completed.
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Post by eickst on Aug 5, 2009 12:14:24 GMT -6
Our league stipulates that at our age level the minimum playing time is one continuous quarter of play, on offense defense and special teams. So our MPPs HAVE to learn both sides of the ball....
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Post by davecisar on Aug 5, 2009 12:54:36 GMT -6
Wow, what if you have a real super heavy kid you cant play an entire quarter both ways?
Had a 235 lb 10 year old in my program in 2002
Had a 210 lb 10 year old on my team in 2003 ( started on offense, not same kid as above)
Had a 290 pound 13 year old in 2003 in my program
I have a 220 lb 12 year old this year on my team, no chace he can play both ways.
etc etc
Hate to see kids like that forced out of probably only sport they can play
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Post by eickst on Aug 5, 2009 15:58:33 GMT -6
Well dave since our leagues maximum weights are below the average weight by age (According to the CDC report) most kids aren't too out of shape. I'd much rather see the weight limit go away and use "striped" players but people in my area don't seem to understand what that means and would rather play travel baseball or AAU.
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Post by justryn2 on Aug 8, 2009 13:50:50 GMT -6
In our league we don't have minimum play rules as such. The rule is called "11-on 11-off" and it means that, with a roster of 22 or fewer players, everyone has a starting position and everyone plays on one side of the ball or the other for the entire game. There are only certain reasons that a coach is allowed to substitute (fatigue being one). So, the 260 lb 12 year old, the 225 lb 11 year old and the two 200+ lb 12 year olds that completed their 25 yard "sprints" in a blazing 6.8 seconds; will all have starting positions on my team this year.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. In fact, I'm looking forward to the challenge. We're a Heavyweight (a league classification) team with a striper rule so anyone over 168 has to play on the LOS from tackle to tackle. It so happens that, based on the last weigh-in before practice started, I have 9 stripers. That takes some of the guesswork out finding spots for these kids. But it also means that kids like the 161 lb 10 year old on my roster will have to have a starting position that is not on the LOS.
Its going to be an interesting year.
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